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Old 01-11-2017, 08:31 AM   #231
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Hi all. I need some advice. Allegiant just called and offered me an interview. I'm close to flowing to AA, but I think leaving envoy for Allegiant would be a really smart career decision. Didn't someone else who posts on here all the time say that it was the best decision he ever made? Not sure what to do. It is a really hard decision. I just want to make a smart decision...like that other guy!
Unless they've vastly improved their MX program I'd stay away just for that reason. Don't they have a statistically high amount of engine failures?

You'd have to pay me an ungodly amount to be on a plane that had a high likelihood to can an engine on a CATII miss...
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:33 AM   #232
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Unless they've vastly improved their MX program I'd stay away just for that reason. Don't they have a statistically high amount of engine failures?

You'd have to pay me an ungodly amount to be on a plane that had a high likelihood to can an engine on a CATII miss...
Yea that's the mad dawg. Think they are going to mostly Airbus
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:34 AM   #233
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Any insight on current upgrade time at Envoy? Strongly considering it as an option. Thanks!
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:45 AM   #234
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Any insight on current upgrade time at Envoy? Strongly considering it as an option. Thanks!
Current awarded upgrade is a April 2011 hire, he starts training next month. There is a new bid that gets run today with around 100 CA vacancies which should push junior upgrade to late 2011. General trend is upgrade time is decreasing and should continue to do so throughout the year. Might go under three years before 2017 is over if they upgrade as many as they said they would. With that being said, predicting upgrade time at date of hire is more art than science and has a lot of variables.
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Any insight on current upgrade time at Envoy? Strongly considering it as an option. Thanks!
Upgrade time is dropping rapidly. The vacancy that just closed will put the most jr. captain probably around a fall 2011 hire. Once they get through the rest of 2011, the upgrade time will drop a year or 2 overnight basically. Only 6 guys left on the seniority list that were hired in 2012 and only 68 guys that were hired in 2013. There will be absolutely no problem getting into 2014 hires by later this year.
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So it's right to say an upgrade time of less than 4 years? Not bad.
I am from the MIA-FLL area, will need to commute....any advice on that? Also, is upgrade quicker on some equipments?
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Current awarded upgrade is a April 2011 hire, he starts training next month. There is a new bid that gets run today with around 100 CA vacancies which should push junior upgrade to late 2011. General trend is upgrade time is decreasing and should continue to do so throughout the year. Might go under three years before 2017 is over if they upgrade as many as they said they would. With that being said, predicting upgrade time at date of hire is more art than science and has a lot of variables.
Thank you for your quick response
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:56 AM   #238
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Upgrade time is dropping rapidly. The vacancy that just closed will put the most jr. captain probably around a fall 2011 hire. Once they get through the rest of 2011, the upgrade time will drop a year or 2 overnight basically. Only 6 guys left on the seniority list that were hired in 2012 and only 68 guys that were hired in 2013. There will be absolutely no problem getting into 2014 hires by later this year.
Thanks for your quick response
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:56 AM   #239
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So it's right to say an upgrade time of less than 4 years? Not bad.
I am from the MIA-FLL area, will need to commute....any advice on that? Also, is upgrade quicker on some equipments?
The plane you fly as an FO has no factor in upgrade time.

The plane/base you choose to upgrade into does. So you may wait a little bit longer to get DFW CA if you don't want to go to LGA or ORD.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:59 AM   #240
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So it's right to say an upgrade time of less than 4 years? Not bad.
I am from the MIA-FLL area, will need to commute....any advice on that? Also, is upgrade quicker on some equipments?
Yes, I didn't think that this would ever be possible but by the end of the year upgrade time should be hovering around the 3 year mark. The 145 has the quickest upgrade time as of right now. Specifically, the 145 in LGA. That's how things look right now. Of course, in this game things change very quickly.
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