Originally Posted by cr700

This is like your 4th screen name. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Corso1

Hi there;
Any insight on current upgrade time at Envoy? Strongly considering it as an option. Thanks!

Originally Posted by moon

The answer is a lot! Kinda speaks to what we find more important, money or QOL. A lot don't want to be in the meat grinder that is captain reserve even for a big pay bump.

Originally Posted by What

I think you are stressing about quick flying too much, while some bases and equipment fly more in some months, it is likely to be a wash over the course of a year or two. If able pick the base and equipment you want, at the end of the day pick the best base available for your situation.

NY temds to be more junior, there is a bid that could see 25 to 50 FO leave NY to DFW and possibly ORD. The place that is the shortest path to a line today might not be tomorrow.

Example, the last E75 line holder is likely on the pipeline already, there are only 25 to 35 current FO on that equipment that will see an upgrade in the next 2 years, so those heading into the E75 will be junior for a while unless the fleet grows.

Example, Ny the base is growing and junior. Likely to see movement as people shift but with ORD slated to shrink and if not backfilled for those whom are leaving the folks junior in ORD will be junior for a while, today ORD E45 is the fastest line on the E45.

Example, DFW E45, longest path to a line on the E45, however the status Just posted a vacancy for FO and has been backfilled the last couple of bids.

Example, CRJ, fleet shrinking and could see little movement but a delay in the transfers for whatever reason would see this change.

If you commute vs live in base makes a big difference in OT pick up. If you live in NY but 2 hours away and the construction in LGA is much different than living in DFW. Not to sound repetitive, but based your equipment and base on where do you want to be away from work and hopefully is available or on an equipment that could get you there.

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

With the current FO bonuses, it's not even that big of a pay bump anymore. Especially if you factor in commuting costs and unpaid time away for those that could only hold a base away from home.

Originally Posted by cr700

Latest vacancy preliminary award has the junior captain as a 12 NOV 2012 hire.
We are now into 4 year upgrades at Envoy.

All of you new guys here posting with questions, you've made the best decision of your life. I know that for many of you, this is your first 121 job. Where else can you hire onto your first 121 carrier and literally be in an AA cockpit in less than 6 years.

If you were in doubt, the results of this latest award will clear all of that up for you. Expect more vacancies this year. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we went sub 2 year upgrade this year. The trend is moving in our direction fast and the 2.5 may be history. Again, for you new hires. First 121 job, you upgrade right at 2 years and then 3 1/2 years late are sitting at AA. Pretty sweet if I say so myself.

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Currently on the 175, FOs are holding a line about 2 months out of training. Mileage may vary in the future.

Originally Posted by Antoine137

How are you seeing the vacancy awards? I can't find them.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by mr25cents

hehe, they are well connected, with the union or mgt. You'll get an email from ALPA when the official preliminary bid comes out.

Originally Posted by mr25cents

hehe, they are well connected, with the union or mgt. You'll get an email from ALPA when the official preliminary bid comes out.