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SureJetStick 01-06-2017 08:20 AM

XNA instrument approaches
 
Are they all notam out, and if so anyone know why?

rickair7777 01-06-2017 08:30 AM

They built a new runway (34), and decommissioned the old one (35).

They are installing an ILS for 34, but it's not up yet so only non-precision approaches are available.

Yes, it's a problem and yes you might have to divert. Tailwinds can compound the problem.

I'm hoping to not go back there until the ILS works.

VanDriver208 01-06-2017 08:41 AM

They picked a great time of year to NOTAM a bunch of approaches out of service!:p

Maingear 01-06-2017 08:44 AM

Anyone know why they built the new runway?

tennisguru 01-06-2017 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 2275773)
Anyone know why they built the new runway?

I don't know all the details, but basically since they only had 1 runway and it needed to be redone, they built an "alternate landing surface" parallel to the original runway. Somehow on the redo of the original runway something wasn't done to spec and it sat several years unused while they sorted all that out. I guess now the redone runway will finally be opened?

PSASUX 01-06-2017 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2275760)
They built a new runway (34), and decommissioned the old one (35).

They are installing an ILS for 34, but it's not up yet so only non-precision approaches are available.

Yes, it's a problem and yes you might have to divert. Tailwinds can compound the problem.

I'm hoping to not go back there until the ILS works.

Incorrect. The ILS 34 is in operation.

USMCFLYR 01-06-2017 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 2275773)
Anyone know why they built the new runway?

I don't know if it was planned this way - but from my understanding, the *new* parallel runway was built to close to the original runway and they will be using the *old* runway as a parallel surface as a taxiway.

This could be an old wive's tale :confused:

2StgTurbine 01-06-2017 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2275848)
I don't know if it was planned this way - but from my understanding, the *new* parallel runway was built to close to the original runway and they will be using the *old* runway as a parallel surface as a taxiway.

This could be an old wive's tale :confused:

I don't think XNA is big enough to warrant parallel runways. I think the previous post about needing a new runway was more accurate. It may have something to do with a minimum distance needed between the runway and the parallel taxiway. I know a few airports that had to move the runway further from the taxiway.

E175 Driver 01-06-2017 10:45 AM

The whole airport was shut down yesterday due to errors on instrument approaches and no runway lights.

N6279P 01-06-2017 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2275860)
The whole airport was shut down yesterday due to errors on instrument approaches and no runway lights.

That's not true at all. The airline I work for operated all of its flights there yesterday.

rickair7777 01-06-2017 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2275848)
I don't know if it was planned this way - but from my understanding, the *new* parallel runway was built to close to the original runway and they will be using the *old* runway as a parallel surface as a taxiway.

This could be an old wive's tale :confused:

That's what ground told me when I asked.

E175 Driver 01-06-2017 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2275863)
That's not true at all. The airline I work for operated all of its flights there yesterday.

Mesa??....

toolowterrain 01-06-2017 11:27 AM

Similar thing in Ashville, NC.

Single runway at airport needed to be extended. So they built a temp runway right next to it and numbered it 35 instead if 34.

Never knew how wide 150' is till I landed in a 100' wide runway on the RJ in hard IMC. Im sure the airbus folks love it also. At least the put an ILS on the temp. runway there.

USMCFLYR 01-06-2017 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 2275851)
I don't think XNA is big enough to warrant parallel runways. I think the previous post about needing a new runway was more accurate. It may have something to do with a minimum distance needed between the runway and the parallel taxiway. I know a few airports that had to move the runway further from the taxiway.

And maybe that was the 'too close' part - but that original runway and parallel runway was there for a LONG time before they started building that new runway. I'll agree with you that KXNA doesn't seem to have the traffic to *need* two runways. Maybe if I'm there working on some of the recent procedures/etc... I'll have the chance to engage the airport authority and satisfy my curiousity. :)

knewyork 01-06-2017 09:21 PM

The ILS 34 in XNA is operational. Different freq than charted.


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