Shut down in LAX
 

so asa got the boot in lax. all i can say this is ruining a lot of peoples lives. I know that this isn't skywests call but now they are starting reserve base in atl... what a bunch of a**holes. skywest is going to drag the industry down down down. i said it before and i will say it again. skywest is going to whipsaw the sh!t out of asa till there is nothing left.

How does one company expanding drag the market down? It sounds like the management of skywest is making better decisions. If you're mad about losing a job or something along that lines it was your companies fault. I don't work for them. Just saying. This seems to be the only place I know of where for some reason people feel like some other company should honor their contracts. Go see if IBM, AMD, Apple, Intel, Ford, GM, or virtually any other company out there isn't doing all it can to expand and make money at keep their employees working.

If company A goes in and buys company B then chops them up and sells them to make comp A's standing in the market that much better there's nothing wrong with that. I don't understand why everyone here seems to think it's company As fault for company bs performance.

The only obligation to be made in this industry is that of our government. Since the government is comprised of all those under it they are the ones who need to look out for us by means of not allowing foreign carriers to operate within our borders. One airline taking over anothers routes still needs people to fly them and in the grand scheme of things the total amount of jobs out there won't change much. However if foreign carriers are allowed to come in then the industry can get hit.

What did SkyWest management do now? Also, what are the rumors as to why Ron Reber stepped down or was replaced?

What does my main man Slaphappy think about this? Slaphappy = Keeping it real!

ASA management will for sure blame the closure on pilot pay... Another way to convince the gov't appointed mediator to fu*k us on our pay scale for the new contract.

Another example of another low cost rip off airline lowering the bar for the rest of us. Good luck to the cheap ass mofo's taking over LAX.

So SkyWest is a bunch of *******s cause they are sending a grand total of 6 pilots to ATL? I'm not sure if you noticed, but they've been flying out of ATL for a couple months now. Now they're just making sure a couple pilots are nearby for some coverage. As of now, they are no longer taking away any ASA flying. No SkyWest pilot is flying a single 200 or 700 out of ATL. While I suspect the 900 ATL flying will continue to grow on the SkyWest side, it's been well established that SkyWest would fly the 900's for some time. This is not news. I'm not sure why LAX is closing, but it JUST opened. It didn't work out. Companies close bases all the time. It was open for a couple months, I don't think you can make a case for it "ruining a lot of people's lives." It may be an inconvenience for those that decide to move back or commute now, but it didn't RUIN THEIR LIVES. Your post is kinda ridiculous. SkyWest is not responsible for dragging the industry down, as you describe. Quite the opposite, they are proving you don't have to be the cheapest on the block to win a contract. We are certainly not the cheapest 50 operator, but we still won the Midwest contract.

you SCABWEST guys,oooooooooopppppppppppssssssssss I meant Skywest sorry:D hahah just kidding, but seriously who is going to do the flying out of LAX??????????

yeah,, just a few reserve guys.. thats all it will be!!! man dont be so naive. it has nothing to do with pay. see, what you and toilet duck dont get is that this is our industry. Like he said, we don't really care about hp, or ibm, or the other industries and their problems unless we have friends or family involved in it. Just like the average joe doesn't give a crap abou asa, skywest, or anyone else. all they care about is the cheap ticket. The difference between us and other industries is we could get together and get everyone on the same page. all we are doing is hurting eachother. and in doing so taking the industry down a peg. So your thinking is what is really ridiculous. Not seeing the big picture is ridiculous. Everyone knows that those 900's were going to asa before delta sold them to skywest. Skywest took them from asa because they fly it cheaper, so they shut down slc, take the planes, and then all the sudden close a base in lax. now they are slowly putting guys on reserve in atl???? man dont be such a tard and think about what you are saying.

You guys saab. It's part of taking over the world.

so who is going to pick up that flying in lax???

Colgan....

Ok, so it has nothing to do with pay........ but we got the 900's because we're cheaper. I'm having a hard time following that logic. Anyway I fully acknowledged that in all likelyhood the 900 ATL flying will likely grow on the SkyWest side. We will more than likely start a regular domicile there shortly. But I do not believe that SkyWest INC is this evil corporation that's taking a metaphorical bat, and beating ASA over the head with it. I think they are relocating their capital in a fashion that better suits the company. Lately it hasn't gone that well for ASA. I feel bad about that, I really do. I'm not Slappy. Maybe I'm naive to think that SkyWest will try to grow the ASA side with 200's and 700's, but that's what I believe. In general I trust the management of SkyWest to do what's best for the entire company. What's good for SkyWest is good for ASA and vice versa. After every arguement I have with the ASA guys, I say the same thing. We've only been running you for a short time. The transition is still going on. Your contract will hopefully be done soon, and you never know, SkyWest may just become your newest ALPA brother. Give it some time, and stop with the doomsday stuff. There are alot of other worse carriers/management you could be owned/run by.

colgan family pre peaknuckle...couldn't even find california on a first grader map...

The scab comment is totally uncalled for :mad:

It's not going to be SkyWest anyway. That ASA LAX thing is DAL...Skywest already does UA out of LAX and UA does not allow it's regionals to operate for a competitor in the same hub.

My guess is that DL decided to let eagle continue to do the LAX flying, like they have been doing for years (using planes with Eagle paint jobs). This was an experiemnet to see if DL could get those routes flown with DL paint jobs...I guess it wasn't worth the trouble?

Or maybe they'll have XJet do it...I guess that would make YOU a scab then, right?

Oh please.

ASA lost LAX because they are run like a nigerian e-mail scam. The airline is ALWAYS late, the managment doesn't care what equipment is neededc and The pilots are so bitter they'd rather sit in the cockpit for 2 hours than god-forbid load a bag.

If asa had an ontime performance above 50% maybe they would get some sympathy for that outragous raise they want.

Let me ask you this, if Skywest was soooooooooooooooo wonderful then why are you getting paid less as a 5 year (70seat) CA then other 5 year (50seat) CA's??????????????? Our management doest want larger airplanes becuase they know we would not do it for those rediculous rates, its called a UNION

by what 2$? Yeah thats pretty severe there. We make it up in work rules and profit sharing. There are more to wages than hourly rates and if we can take a hit for 1 or 2 bucks and get 50 airplanes a year and get flying over other carriers i'm 100% for that. Plus we don't have alpa so really our pay is 2% more than everyones.

But really its the growth, in 1.5 years you can be a captain on the jet here or 6 month on the emb. So by 5 years you're ready to move onto another airline.

Our work rules are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr better than Skywests, you dont get it.................. we get paid more and our planes carry 20 seats less than yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not sure if you get it, more seats means more revenue, which means the pilots SHOULD BE MAKING MORE in comparison, but you guys don't because you let your management take advantage of you.......................I forgot its just temporary for you, you will be at a "real" airline before you know it...................get a clue

Like I said before, I don't care.

well thats because your wrong and you are now realizing it. Its ok I forgive you, you'll learn



ONCE AGAIN YOU DONT CARE SO MGMT WILL CONTINUE TO ABUSE YOU GUYS

Lets compare w2s we'll see who makes the most.

Wow you are a child

Sure...

You first.

-LAFF

dang it
 

You know i really wish i was flying for skywest, or XJet. Not only so i can do something with all this training and ed-uma-cation, but so i can be in this p***ing contest to:D .

just don't cross the streams!