Schedule flexibility?
#31
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Assuming you live in base and don’t have to commute in or out at beginning or end of trips 10 is a pretty solid bet. Maybe 9 if you get some really nice credit trips. Worst case scenario probably 12 with bad credit trips. But that’s just my experience and it mayyyyy be dependent on the base.
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Speaking of schedules, how much does a pilot get around the system from their crew base (specifically, ORD)? Do you get to see a lot of the cities, or do you find yourselves doing the same out and backs all day everyday? I know I'm being petty, but one of the things I'm looking for at my next airline is variety. TIA!
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Reserve would depend on staffing. When I was on reserve I was almost never used. People hired 3 months later might tell a very different story. With reserve you also run the risk of out of base reserve which is cool if you commute to reserve cuz it’s 24/7 per diem and a paid for hotel but not so great if you sit reserve at home and now you have a bunch of extra nights away from home. We also don’t have “call last” or “call first,” the call list is totally dependent on how many days of reserve you have left. Having said all that if you live in base you can bid day trips and that would cut down time away from home. I always forget those exist cuz my drive to work causes me to avoid them like the plague.
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Reserve would depend on staffing. When I was on reserve I was almost never used. People hired 3 months later might tell a very different story. With reserve you also run the risk of out of base reserve which is cool if you commute to reserve cuz it’s 24/7 per diem and a paid for hotel but not so great if you sit reserve at home and now you have a bunch of extra nights away from home. We also don’t have “call last” or “call first,” the call list is totally dependent on how many days of reserve you have left. Having said all that if you live in base you can bid day trips and that would cut down time away from home. I always forget those exist cuz my drive to work causes me to avoid them like the plague.
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Speaking of schedules, how much does a pilot get around the system from their crew base (specifically, ORD)? Do you get to see a lot of the cities, or do you find yourselves doing the same out and backs all day everyday? I know I'm being petty, but one of the things I'm looking for at my next airline is variety. TIA!
#37
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We've only had it for two months so the above is very preliminary info.
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Our SAP is much less effective than PSA's because it is restricted based on the reserve coverage available where theirs is not. Once the reserve coverage for a particular day gets low enough the system will not allow any more drops for that day. The result is that all the drops that can happen have already happened by the end of seniority-based SAP 1 and the junior guys don't get squat in the first-come-first-served base SAP 2 because no trip drop/swaps are able to be approved.
We've only had it for two months so the above is very preliminary info.
We've only had it for two months so the above is very preliminary info.
#39
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The intent of SAP is/was to improve QOL, particularly for junior pilots. Our SAP thus far is a textbook example of how SAP can fail to do that based on how it is implemented and what restrictions are placed on it.
#40
Our SAP is much less effective than PSA's because it is restricted based on the reserve coverage available where theirs is not. Once the reserve coverage for a particular day gets low enough the system will not allow any more drops for that day. The result is that all the drops that can happen have already happened by the end of seniority-based SAP 1 and the junior guys don't get squat in the first-come-first-served base SAP 2 because no trip drop/swaps are able to be approved.
We've only had it for two months so the above is very preliminary info.
We've only had it for two months so the above is very preliminary info.
If you spend enough time learning PBS and FLICA, that combined with our trip efficiency is essentially the same as PSA SAP. 20 off, 76 credit, 15 months on property. All commutable.
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