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Old 03-15-2018, 10:34 PM
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Anyone currently in training that could advise how the self study program is? Seems crazy to me that they would have us teach ourselves the systems of an aircraft much more complex than the pistons we're used to. Thank god I had a transport category aircraft systems class in college on the 737
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didn't we just discuss it in the classes thread? other then the fact it is a horrible money saving idea that will dramatically increase failure rate, I don't think there is a class that has went through the process yet to give you the deets
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This is becoming quite common now throughout the industry. Doing online self-study, can be WAY better than a classroom setting, or WAY worse. It depends on the software and the classroom instructor/material/presentation.

At my airline we're on our second version of online training, and it is MUCH better than the first generation, and pretty good overall. One thing that is nice for recurrent training is that they have spread the annual training into four blocks, due quarterly. We can also download the training modules and do them off-line, if we want to.
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This is becoming quite common now throughout the industry. Doing online self-study, can be WAY better than a classroom setting, or WAY worse. It depends on the software and the classroom instructor/material/presentation.

At my airline we're on our second version of online training, and it is MUCH better than the first generation, and pretty good overall. One thing that is nice for recurrent training is that they have spread the annual training into four blocks, due quarterly. We can also download the training modules and do them off-line, if we want to.
AQP recurrent and new-hire training for someone who hasn't flown anything bigger than a Seminole are completely different
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AQP recurrent and new-hire training for someone who hasn't flown anything bigger than a Seminole are completely different
It’s weird they would do this under the current staffing situation. If the failure rate goes up significantly it could hurt recruitment. People won’t want to take the high risk of a 121 failure on pria.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:56 AM
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Anyone currently in training that could advise how the self study program is? Seems crazy to me that they would have us teach ourselves the systems of an aircraft much more complex than the pistons we're used to. Thank god I had a transport category aircraft systems class in college on the 737
Compass has done it for years, so I assume they aren’t having much of a problem. I’m sure they will give you the opportunity to discuss with a instructor if needed. The 170 is a crazy simple airplane, so you will get to know the acronym PFM. This is just another way for them to save money I’m sure.
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If I'm really honest I would have preferred systems to be self study when I went through. You haven't experienced classroom pain until you've experienced DW talking about how he had to reset the fuel filter bypass pins on an A7 after it trapped on the Forrestal, six times in the same week of class. I love old war stories but its not really efficient for a learning environment.

The E170 is a stupid easy airplane. I studied harder for the Baron on my AMEL than I did for this type. Granted it was my third jet, but seriously, it's easier than any heavy pressurized piston twin or a KingAir. If you watch the videos and pay attention and take notes on things to ask questions about, it's gravy. Just requires some self application.
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It has its ups and downs, on the down side it’s harder to get discussion going about the systems, but you get to spend as much time on each system as you need. You won’t have to spend time on easy systems because others are struggling with it and you can spend extra time on areas you need too.

The downside is that all discussion is done through chat until the week of systems in classroom, but that week brings everything together into scenarios and logic.

If al you do is watch the videos a couple times you’re not going to do well, but if you take notes and think through the sample oral questions and try to figure out what happens in different situations, you’ll be fine.

They actually took the original program from L3/Aerosim and re made it all, so it was pretty well done
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The legacies and Boeing do it the same way. I like it better than classroom settings. You can go at your own pace but it does require discipline.
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Old 04-19-2018, 04:14 PM
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Long time lurker here, thinking about joining Republic in the next couple of months. Any word on how this new at home, self study training program is working out? I was not surprised when they announced this change, as numerous other regional airlines have already implemented a similar training outline. Just curious as to how it is working out for recent new-hires here. Thanks!
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