CH1203

A friend of mine left for RPA training a few months ago. He failed his ATP oral twice. According to him, the examiners have gotten progressively tougher as new classes come through. He said most of the orals lasted no more than an hour. His was over two hours, with the examiner going in depth with how the systems operated and the redundancies with each system. Has anyone else had a bad experience with the ATP? Do they single people out and go more in depth than others?

4V14T0R

Just like any checkride, if you dig yourself a hole.


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TheWeatherman

Exactly. I thought my Oral with my examiner went pretty well, but then again I went in there prepared. I thought it was kind of easy actually. But somebody in my class with the same examiner failed. Then he failed a second time with another examiner and got canned. I knew the type of person this guy was, and was always one to talk more then he should. He dug himself holes that exposed weaknesses in his knowledge base.


My experience and from what I heard of other Republic examiners, they are one of the fairest in the business. Now has that changed since last year? Knowing the personalities of a few of the examiners, I doubt they are the type of people to fail a few just to drive a point home that we are pushing too many trainees through right now. But who knows. Just go in there and have your memory items down pat and be prepared to go through every panel in the cockpit and explain the buttons/knobs and each system associated with it. You'll do fine.

twebb

I felt the oral was very fair and no harder than any other FlightSafety/Simuflite type rating oral.

What does the switch do? When would it turn on/off? Here's a basic senerio, what do you think is happening?

Then they may ask a really in depth question on that system that connects to another system to see if you know it, if you do, they know you've done your homework and the rest is relaxed. If you don't, no big deal, it was just to test your depth of knowledge. On to the next system.

Orals today have greatly changed from the past. You don't have to build the airplane, but you do need real knowledge that can help you in the airplane.

Everything you need to know is in the AFM.

sflpilot

When they started the 170 program years ago the answer to everything was basically system logic. That has changed over the years to where they do actually expect you to have knowledge of how all the systems work. I think you only need 80% systems knowledge to pass so you don’t have to be perfect. But please don’t show up without 100% knowledge of limitations and memory items. And don’t go to simulator without complete memorization of profiles and callouts. You will get destroyed.

dirtysidedown

I have always found oral exams performed by airline employees were always more in depth and involved than say, Flight Safety or CAE.

TheNotoriousPIC

At the moment i only have the "master book" study guide that they give new hires in the job offer email. Does this contain all of the limitations, call outs, and profiles or is there more coming in indoc?

TheWeatherman

It has everything. It is not just for new hires, current pilots use it to brush up on systems before recurrent.

Jungle Jim

This shouldn’t be understated. Your “ATP oral” isn’t that far off from an ordinary 121 type ride oral. Study your stuff, come prepared, be confident but not cocky, and when you sit in front of the examiner, keep it to the point and on topic — and FFS don’t try to build the f’ing airplane for them. They will eat your lunch every single time.

zanfarroway

Where in the timeline is the oral scheduled? right after flat panel trainer? after the sims before the ride?