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Old 08-26-2018, 01:35 PM
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I am going to be commuting. A class instructor told me since I am a commuter my per diem is not taxed? Is that correct. And then is that per diem any hour that is not flight time away from base?
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Old 08-26-2018, 02:36 PM
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I am going to be commuting. A class instructor told me since I am a commuter my per diem is not taxed? Is that correct. And then is that per diem any hour that is not flight time away from base?


You must’ve understood incorrectly. I have a hard time believing an instructor gave you that bad of info. Anytime you’re on a multi-day Trip your per diem wont be taxed. You per diem clock starts at report time and stops at release time, regardless of flight time.


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Old 08-26-2018, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R View Post
You must’ve understood incorrectly. I have a hard time believing an instructor gave you that bad of info. Anytime you’re on a multi-day Trip your per diem wont be taxed. You per diem clock starts at report time and stops at release time, regardless of flight time.


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Sorry I didn’t mean time at home I just meant per diem while being paid per diem! thanks for the answer!
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Originally Posted by Gravity88x View Post
Sorry I didn’t mean time at home I just meant per diem while being paid per diem! thanks for the answer!


Not sure I follow, but if you’re satisfied, I’m good.


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Gravity, do you also know how the rigs work? I saw you started a thread about it and then just said "nevermind". Rigs are pretty nice, so you want to know them, too.
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Gravity, do you also know how the rigs work? I saw you started a thread about it and then just said "nevermind". Rigs are pretty nice, so you want to know them, too.
Do you mind explaining rigs.
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Old 08-27-2018, 09:01 AM
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Not at all.



If I explain this poorly or anyone else has anything else to add, feel free to chime in.



At Republic, you're paid the BEST of four scenarios: Block or better, 4:12 minimum day, 2:1 duty rig, and 4:1 trip rig.



Block or better: The flight is scheduled for 2 hours. You fly it in 1.8. You're getting paid 2. You fly it in 2.2. You're getting paid 2.2.


Minimum day: If you have any duty, you're getting paid a minimum of 4:12. Fly IND-ORD-IND? You're getting paid 4:12.



Duty rig: For every 2 hours that you're on duty, you're getting paid 1 hour. So if you're on duty for 12 hours, you're getting 6 hours of pay for that day.


Trip rig: Take your report time at base and your release time in domicile at the end of the trip. However much time that is, you get 1 hour of pay for every 4 hours. So if you're gone from base for 36 hours, you're getting 9 hours of pay. Trip rigs are really only effective after about 4 days on the road. Or.... if you're in BUF in December and are stuck there for 10 days because there's 17 feet of snow on the ground...


And remember.... it's the GREATER of those four situations.
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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive View Post
Not at all.



If I explain this poorly or anyone else has anything else to add, feel free to chime in.



At Republic, you're paid the BEST of four scenarios: Block or better, 4:12 minimum day, 2:1 duty rig, and 4:1 trip rig.



Block or better: The flight is scheduled for 2 hours. You fly it in 1.8. You're getting paid 2. You fly it in 2.2. You're getting paid 2.2.


Minimum day: If you have any duty, you're getting paid a minimum of 4:12. Fly IND-ORD-IND? You're getting paid 4:12.



Duty rig: For every 2 hours that you're on duty, you're getting paid 1 hour. So if you're on duty for 12 hours, you're getting 6 hours of pay for that day.


Trip rig: Take your report time at base and your release time in domicile at the end of the trip. However much time that is, you get 1 hour of pay for every 4 hours. So if you're gone from base for 36 hours, you're getting 9 hours of pay. Trip rigs are really only effective after about 4 days on the road. Or.... if you're in BUF in December and are stuck there for 10 days because there's 17 feet of snow on the ground...


And remember.... it's the GREATER of those four situations.


Just to add to this, block or better, min day, and duty rig are looked at on a day by day basis. Trip rig considers the whole trip.


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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R View Post
Just to add to this, block or better, min day, and duty rig are looked at on a day by day basis. Trip rig considers the whole trip.


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Block or better is leg-by-leg as well.


If you under block three legs and over block the fourth in one day, you're still getting the extra gravy you earned over blocking that fourth one.
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Old 08-27-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive View Post
Not at all.



If I explain this poorly or anyone else has anything else to add, feel free to chime in.



At Republic, you're paid the BEST of four scenarios: Block or better, 4:12 minimum day, 2:1 duty rig, and 4:1 trip rig.



Block or better: The flight is scheduled for 2 hours. You fly it in 1.8. You're getting paid 2. You fly it in 2.2. You're getting paid 2.2.


Minimum day: If you have any duty, you're getting paid a minimum of 4:12. Fly IND-ORD-IND? You're getting paid 4:12.



Duty rig: For every 2 hours that you're on duty, you're getting paid 1 hour. So if you're on duty for 12 hours, you're getting 6 hours of pay for that day.


Trip rig: Take your report time at base and your release time in domicile at the end of the trip. However much time that is, you get 1 hour of pay for every 4 hours. So if you're gone from base for 36 hours, you're getting 9 hours of pay. Trip rigs are really only effective after about 4 days on the road. Or.... if you're in BUF in December and are stuck there for 10 days because there's 17 feet of snow on the ground...


And remember.... it's the GREATER of those four situations.
Thank you for this. I had wondered about that as well before. Per diem and the rigs are talked about briefly in the interview but by the time I got through Indoc and systems and now am budgeting for a crash pad and for the winter these questions start to come up.
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