Junior Lines & Base Assignments
09-26-2018, 08:44 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by metalfeather
The jr base assignments image shows the most junior pilot awarded DCA with a hire date of 6/12/2018. 3 months on property to get DCA, but likely reserve.
The jr lineholders image shows a pilot hired in 10/2018 could hold a line in DCA. Someone hired in 12/2018 couldn't hold a line but used the schedule adjustment period (SAP) to get a line.
The most jr captain in DCA was hired in 4/15, so a new hire wanting to upgrade in that base may wait 3 years 5 months. I expect this would be reserve, but the jr captain post doesn't specify lineholder vs reserve.
Summary:
3 months to get DCA reserve
6-8 months reserve until holding a line
2.5 years later become a captain
YMMV, this is a historical snapshot and won't accurately predict the future.
The jr lineholders image shows a pilot hired in 10/2018 could hold a line in DCA. Someone hired in 12/2018 couldn't hold a line but used the schedule adjustment period (SAP) to get a line.
The most jr captain in DCA was hired in 4/15, so a new hire wanting to upgrade in that base may wait 3 years 5 months. I expect this would be reserve, but the jr captain post doesn't specify lineholder vs reserve.
Summary:
3 months to get DCA reserve
6-8 months reserve until holding a line
2.5 years later become a captain
YMMV, this is a historical snapshot and won't accurately predict the future.
Thank you for the break down! I appreciate it! I know it must get old having to explain this stuff...
09-27-2018, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnyFL
So based on the training timeline its a possibility you could have DCA when you finish all the training?
Thank you for the break down! I appreciate it! I know it must get old having to explain this stuff...
Thank you for the break down! I appreciate it! I know it must get old having to explain this stuff...
What's more likely is you will get assigned one of the bases that are listed with "New Hire" in the snapshots, and will then have the opportunity to bid in the system wide vacancies (along with 2300 other pilots) for whatever base it is you want. Once you get awarded your base, the effective month is 4 months later. For example, the other day they posted the vacancies effective January 31, 2019. These bids close on October 5th. If you were to be awarded DCA in this vacancy, you would stay in your current base until January 30, 2019. On the following day, January 31, you would become a DCA pilot.
Does that make it a little more clear?
09-27-2018, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Random Task
Unlikely unless you are awarded DCA in your initial bid in indoc. This hasn't happened since the 10/30/2017 class. Not to say it wont happen in the future, just unlikely.
What's more likely is you will get assigned one of the bases that are listed with "New Hire" in the snapshots, and will then have the opportunity to bid in the system wide vacancies (along with 2300 other pilots) for whatever base it is you want. Once you get awarded your base, the effective month is 4 months later. For example, the other day they posted the vacancies effective January 31, 2019. These bids close on October 5th. If you were to be awarded DCA in this vacancy, you would stay in your current base until January 30, 2019. On the following day, January 31, you would become a DCA pilot.
Does that make it a little more clear?
What's more likely is you will get assigned one of the bases that are listed with "New Hire" in the snapshots, and will then have the opportunity to bid in the system wide vacancies (along with 2300 other pilots) for whatever base it is you want. Once you get awarded your base, the effective month is 4 months later. For example, the other day they posted the vacancies effective January 31, 2019. These bids close on October 5th. If you were to be awarded DCA in this vacancy, you would stay in your current base until January 30, 2019. On the following day, January 31, you would become a DCA pilot.
Does that make it a little more clear?
09-27-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Random Task
Unlikely unless you are awarded DCA in your initial bid in indoc. This hasn't happened since the 10/30/2017 class. Not to say it wont happen in the future, just unlikely.
What's more likely is you will get assigned one of the bases that are listed with "New Hire" in the snapshots, and will then have the opportunity to bid in the system wide vacancies (along with 2300 other pilots) for whatever base it is you want. Once you get awarded your base, the effective month is 4 months later. For example, the other day they posted the vacancies effective January 31, 2019. These bids close on October 5th. If you were to be awarded DCA in this vacancy, you would stay in your current base until January 30, 2019. On the following day, January 31, you would become a DCA pilot.
Does that make it a little more clear?
What's more likely is you will get assigned one of the bases that are listed with "New Hire" in the snapshots, and will then have the opportunity to bid in the system wide vacancies (along with 2300 other pilots) for whatever base it is you want. Once you get awarded your base, the effective month is 4 months later. For example, the other day they posted the vacancies effective January 31, 2019. These bids close on October 5th. If you were to be awarded DCA in this vacancy, you would stay in your current base until January 30, 2019. On the following day, January 31, you would become a DCA pilot.
Does that make it a little more clear?
09-27-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
This is all true, but you can also email Crewsupport and let them know that you are willing to transfer early if the opportunity arises. I was in the same situation, but was able to get to my base 2 months earlier then the award because there was somebody wanting to swap out and was willing to do that early too.
09-28-2018, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Random Task
The September vacancy had an unusual amount of FO vacancies posted (over 100), no doubt because of the large number of people in training. There were vacancies posted for (I think) every base, EWR trumped every other base with 35 vacancies posted. The awards didn't fill anywhere near 35 spots in EWR so they filled the rest of those vacancies with new hires.
09-30-2018, 09:58 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by Random Task
October (Feb '19) vacancies have the same deal. They didn't fill all the EWR vacancies, plus posted a total of 70 vacancies presumably for the ~200 people in training right now. Maybe EWR lines will come down, maybe they won't. Just my theory.
10-01-2018, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigflt17
With LGA being nearby, virtually the same commute, would it be smarter to bid for LGA due to getting a line sooner? Trying to figure out what the best decision is. Commuter not wanting to sit on reserve forever.
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