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Old 12-16-2018, 01:31 PM
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You've been waiting for it, and it has finally arrived.

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Old 12-16-2018, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10 View Post
You've been waiting for it, and it has finally arrived.

The image quality as an attachment is too poor so here is a Google Drive link:
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Nice!! But I will say the last column seems misleading. For example in EWR, while currently the most junior line holders have been at the company for 5 years or so, this is likely to come down to 3.5. It most likely will not take 2 years to get a line in EWR. There is a large gap between recent upgrades and the bulk of 5 year guys because there are so few 2014 hires.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by knewyork View Post
Nice!! But I will say the last column seems misleading. For example in EWR, while currently the most junior line holders have been at the company for 5 years or so, this is likely to come down to 3.5. It most likely will not take 2 years to get a line in EWR. There is a large gap between recent upgrades and the bulk of 5 year guys because there are so few 2014 hires.
Good to know. The table is a work in progress and there's also bound to be exceptions to some of the data. This is one of them, thanks for that insight.
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Old 12-17-2018, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10 View Post
Good to know. The table is a work in progress and there's also bound to be exceptions to some of the data. This is one of them, thanks for that insight.
Yeah no worries. Overall it’s a great chart. Nice work.
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:36 AM
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Also remember the number of reserve line vary by time of year. I know several junior captains who were awarded great composite lines. Normally not a lot of credit, but 15 plus days off.
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Old 12-17-2018, 08:04 AM
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Excuse the ignorance, but I don’t understand the functional difference between vacancy awards and backfill awards. Don’t they both do pretty much the same thing?


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Old 12-18-2018, 03:27 PM
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Also remember the number of reserve line vary by time of year. I know several junior captains who were awarded great composite lines. Normally not a lot of credit, but 15 plus days off.
So the captains sitting reserve are getting only minimum guarantee for the year or so they are on reserve or do they have the opportunity to get more credit hours?
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Old 12-18-2018, 04:19 PM
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So the captains sitting reserve are getting only minimum guarantee for the year or so they are on reserve or do they have the opportunity to get more credit hours?
As Viking6 said the number of reserves varies by season. As a reserve FO I was seeing 25-55 hours of flying per month (more in the summer, less this time of year), and I would think it is similar for captains. Even working all of your reserve days in my experience it would be difficult to break min guarantee. I know we can pick up premium pay (yellow/red flag) on days off, but I'm not sure how that pays because I haven't done it.
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Old 12-18-2018, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10 View Post
As Viking6 said the number of reserves varies by season. As a reserve FO I was seeing 25-55 hours of flying per month (more in the summer, less this time of year), and I would think it is similar for captains. Even working all of your reserve days in my experience it would be difficult to break min guarantee. I know we can pick up premium pay (yellow/red flag) on days off, but I'm not sure how that pays because I haven't done it.
I understand that breaking 75 hrs on reserve is probably impossible, but I wasn’t sure if you could fly on days off for extra pay.
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I understand that breaking 75 hrs on reserve is probably impossible, but I wasn’t sure if you could fly on days off for extra pay.
I broke 75 hours once on Reserve, so it is not impossible. Yes, you can pick up extra flying on your days off, but remember you will only have 12 days off so it will be hard to do so and stay Part 117 compliant. Not impossible, but it makes it hard to be efficient.
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