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Old 01-12-2019, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 05Duramax View Post
I’ve read about this and have never heard a reasonable reason why this is the case. What makes Republic different from any other regional?

I have the same question. You are getting the 121 time which is what the big 3 are looking for(except for American which is Flow & Military)
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:34 AM
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If you want to go to the big three, then Republic is probably not for you. The 13 pure civilian hires were mostly either management pilots or CKA/ Instructors. I believe 2 were not, but one of those had a family connection at Delta. We should know soon how the Delta screening program is working, but it doesn’t look very promising. Still rumors about possible career progression to UA or AA, but I suspect they would resemble the current Delta program.
This is one of the most uneducated statements I’ve read on this forum. Logically it’s very simple in this industry. You fly an airplane, I fly an airplane. You have 5000 hours, I have 5000 hours. I have community service on my resume (which is the same thing as military in the eyes of an employer), you don’t have that on your resume. Who gets hired? You do the bare mins, I do the bare mins. I’ve decided to become a CKA, IP, or work in management to sell myself, you didn’t. Who gets hired? Having experience flying an airplane is not a skill when you’re competing with others with same skills. STAND OUT from the crowd. This is why the seniority system and year by year pay structure exists in the industry. I can grease every landing and you can bounce every one....if we both have the same amount of longevity at the company we both get paid the same regardless. You can’t stand out in the company, you can stand out on your resume. Don’t be that guy who doesn’t get hired after accomplishing only the mins, then complains about it...
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
This is one of the most uneducated statements I’ve read on this forum. Logically it’s very simple in this industry. You fly an airplane, I fly an airplane. You have 5000 hours, I have 5000 hours. I have community service on my resume (which is the same thing as military in the eyes of an employer), you don’t have that on your resume. Who gets hired? You do the bare mins, I do the bare mins. I’ve decided to become a CKA, IP, or work in management to sell myself, you didn’t. Who gets hired? Having experience flying an airplane is not a skill when you’re competing with others with same skills. STAND OUT from the crowd. This is why the seniority system and year by year pay structure exists in the industry. I can grease every landing and you can bounce every one....if we both have the same amount of longevity at the company we both get paid the same regardless. You can’t stand out in the company, you can stand out on your resume. Don’t be that guy who doesn’t get hired after accomplishing only the mins, then complains about it...
I completely agree with you. It’s who you are that gives you the job.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:03 AM
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No where near. Edv is about 9 months to get a composite line if even. And they do airport hot reserve
Soooo
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I'd like to know from which flight attendant you get your info, because 9E doesn't award composite lines.
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
This is one of the most uneducated statements I’ve read on this forum. Logically it’s very simple in this industry. You fly an airplane, I fly an airplane. You have 5000 hours, I have 5000 hours. I have community service on my resume (which is the same thing as military in the eyes of an employer), you don’t have that on your resume. Who gets hired? You do the bare mins, I do the bare mins. I’ve decided to become a CKA, IP, or work in management to sell myself, you didn’t. Who gets hired? Having experience flying an airplane is not a skill when you’re competing with others with same skills. STAND OUT from the crowd. This is why the seniority system and year by year pay structure exists in the industry. I can grease every landing and you can bounce every one....if we both have the same amount of longevity at the company we both get paid the same regardless. You can’t stand out in the company, you can stand out on your resume. Don’t be that guy who doesn’t get hired after accomplishing only the mins, then complains about it...
Are you even on the list at Republic yet? The fact is 13 pure civilians were hired from Republic in 2018. All were captains and most were in training department. This isn’t my opinion, it’s quantifiable data provided by the union. Republics closest competition is Skywest, and they lost 35 to United alone, so it would appear Skywest would have a higher percentage going to the big 3. Endeavor certainly has a higher percentage going to Delta. Your comment about seeking leadership positions is spot on, but remember those are very selective positions. As a new hire you’re probably looking at 8 years minimum to hold CKA, and that would be record pace.

This doesn’t mean Republic is a bad place to be, but you should be realistic about career progression from Republic. If your career goals are to get to a big 3 carrier as quickly as possible, then Republic is probably not for you. If you want to drive to work and stay at a good regional, then republic is a great choice.
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Are you even on the list at Republic yet? The fact is 13 pure civilians were hired from Republic in 2018. All were captains and most were in training department. This isn’t my opinion, it’s quantifiable data provided by the union. Republics closest competition is Skywest, and they lost 35 to United alone, so it would appear Skywest would have a higher percentage going to the big 3. Endeavor certainly has a higher percentage going to Delta. Your comment about seeking leadership positions is spot on, but remember those are very selective positions. As a new hire you’re probably looking at 8 years minimum to hold CKA, and that would be record pace.

This doesn’t mean Republic is a bad place to be, but you should be realistic about career progression from Republic. If your career goals are to get to a big 3 carrier as quickly as possible, then Republic is probably not for you. If you want to drive to work and stay at a good regional, then republic is a great choice.
It all depends on how you sell yourself man. Plain and simple. What’s on your resume determines whether you’re considered for hire or not. Just like any other high paying profession in the big boy world, you need to separate yourself from the other applicants. Republic is not going to advance your career for you and nor will any other regional, unless you take the bait and go to one of them offering the 10-year “flow” plan (those regionals won’t exist within the next few years). I’ve worked and went to school with two brothers who both flew for the same corporate gig. One was hired on American, the other on Delta. Zero 121 exp. Explain that?

Also, those union numbers that are made available to the public only include the guys that elected to share where they went. Not a very accurate statistic to make a bold conclusion/statement that flying for Republic won’t get you to the big 3. I’ve been around this company for 10 years now before I decided to work for them and I’ve heard all the bullsh@t, but witnessed other things. If you want to get to a major, it’s everything outside your aviation experience that will get you that seat.
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Originally Posted by Viking6 View Post
Are you even on the list at Republic yet? The fact is 13 pure civilians were hired from Republic in 2018. All were captains and most were in training department. This isn’t my opinion, it’s quantifiable data provided by the union. Republics closest competition is Skywest, and they lost 35 to United alone, so it would appear Skywest would have a higher percentage going to the big 3. Endeavor certainly has a higher percentage going to Delta. Your comment about seeking leadership positions is spot on, but remember those are very selective positions. As a new hire you’re probably looking at 8 years minimum to hold CKA, and that would be record pace.

This doesn’t mean Republic is a bad place to be, but you should be realistic about career progression from Republic. If your career goals are to get to a big 3 carrier as quickly as possible, then Republic is probably not for you. If you want to drive to work and stay at a good regional, then republic is a great choice.
OO May have sent more people to majors because they have a pilot group twice the size of ours. You can’t look at numbers, you have to look at percentages of the pilot group. If you actually compare that data, it’s basically the exact same. And yes, majors look at everything about you as a person to get there, not just your flying ability, as already mentioned.
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Old 01-13-2019, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
It all depends on how you sell yourself man. Plain and simple. What’s on your resume determines whether you’re considered for hire or not. Just like any other high paying profession in the big boy world, you need to separate yourself from the other applicants. Republic is not going to advance your career for you and nor will any other regional, unless you take the bait and go to one of them offering the 10-year “flow” plan (those regionals won’t exist within the next few years). I’ve worked and went to school with two brothers who both flew for the same corporate gig. One was hired on American, the other on Delta. Zero 121 exp. Explain that?

Also, those union numbers that are made available to the public only include the guys that elected to share where they went. Not a very accurate statistic to make a bold conclusion/statement that flying for Republic won’t get you to the big 3. I’ve been around this company for 10 years now before I decided to work for them and I’ve heard all the bullsh@t, but witnessed other things. If you want to get to a major, it’s everything outside your aviation experience that will get you that seat.
Interesting observation about the WO's, why do you think they won't exist within the next few years? I can't speak to Envoy or Piedmont, but PSA is still filling classes.
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Wow. This thread went to absolute crap.
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:43 AM
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Wow. This thread went to absolute crap.
I definitely agree smh 🤦*♂️
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