What to expect during Initial?
03-03-2019, 09:28 AM
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What to expect during Initial?
The answer to this may be buried in one of these threads, but I'll be returning for Indoc soon and would like to know what I should expect. I think I will be AQP, but not sure.
Would anybody mind laying out the exact schedule, along with any make or break events, such as test's, orals, whatever there are and what to expect during those. Also judging by the first 3 days of Indoc I'm assuming it's all powerpoint. Should I put emphasis on taking notes or is all the info that's lectured in the company manuals? Last what does the checkride consist of and how does that go?
Thanks in advance, much appreciated!
Would anybody mind laying out the exact schedule, along with any make or break events, such as test's, orals, whatever there are and what to expect during those. Also judging by the first 3 days of Indoc I'm assuming it's all powerpoint. Should I put emphasis on taking notes or is all the info that's lectured in the company manuals? Last what does the checkride consist of and how does that go?
Thanks in advance, much appreciated!
03-03-2019, 10:36 AM
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Long days in a windowless, fluorescent-lit room going through endless mountains of powerpoint slides. Expect caffeine intake to be up significantly. No orals during indoc, and I'm pretty sure they're doing away with them altogether in AQP, but I'm not sure. Recurrent is all written test now. They'll tell you the important points that will be on the test, notate those, stay awake for the rest. Checkride consists of flying a profile in the simulator with some failures, etc. Enjoy!
03-04-2019, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jungle Jim
Long days in a windowless, fluorescent-lit room going through endless mountains of powerpoint slides. Expect caffeine intake to be up significantly. No orals during indoc, and I'm pretty sure they're doing away with them altogether in AQP, but I'm not sure. Recurrent is all written test now. They'll tell you the important points that will be on the test, notate those, stay awake for the rest. Checkride consists of flying a profile in the simulator with some failures, etc. Enjoy!
03-04-2019, 09:15 AM
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I posted this in another thread about 10 days ago:
You will be AQP, which means no oral (this is great news for us). There are two tests during Indoc, one after about 3 days of class and is considered the Indoc exam (50 questions, multiple choice). It is open book, open note, and is basically straight out of the FOM subjects you've reviewed up to that point. The second is at the end of the second week and covers the General Operational Subjects (GOS). Another 50-question, multiple choice, open book, open note test.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
2 weeks of Indoc, 2 weeks of Ethos (iPad systems study program) at home, a week back in Indy for Systems review in the classroom followed by the Systems Validation test (I have that tomorrow).
Then, schedules start to vary wildly as they have limited Enhanced Flat Panel Trainers (EFPTs) and sims. Some people in my class stay in Indy and start their EFPTs on Monday. Some don't start until the 3rd week of March. And everywhere in between. I have about 3 weeks off, and then bounce back and forth between Indy and St. Louis for sims and EFPT sessions, with a couple of 5 day breaks at home in between. Checkride is mid April.
From the time I came back for Indoc, it will be almost 3 months for me. For some others, it will be just a shade more than 2. Just depends on the luck of the draw within your class.
This is for a new hire going through Initial under AQP.
Then, schedules start to vary wildly as they have limited Enhanced Flat Panel Trainers (EFPTs) and sims. Some people in my class stay in Indy and start their EFPTs on Monday. Some don't start until the 3rd week of March. And everywhere in between. I have about 3 weeks off, and then bounce back and forth between Indy and St. Louis for sims and EFPT sessions, with a couple of 5 day breaks at home in between. Checkride is mid April.
From the time I came back for Indoc, it will be almost 3 months for me. For some others, it will be just a shade more than 2. Just depends on the luck of the draw within your class.
This is for a new hire going through Initial under AQP.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
03-04-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
You will be AQP, which means no oral (this is great news for us). There are two tests during Indoc, one after about 3 days of class and is considered the Indoc exam (50 questions, multiple choice). It is open book, open note, and is basically straight out of the FOM subjects you've reviewed up to that point. The second is at the end of the second week and covers the General Operational Subjects (GOS). Another 50-question, multiple choice, open book, open note test.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
03-04-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
The SV exam "is" the "oral". Most AQP implementations have you do it with an examiner, who can only use an approved question bank for the questions. Good to see FAA has approved a full iPad method for it.
With a true oral, I'm not sure the process works the same way, but then again, I didn't go through that program, so I can't say for sure.
03-04-2019, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
I posted this in another thread about 10 days ago:
You will be AQP, which means no oral (this is great news for us). There are two tests during Indoc, one after about 3 days of class and is considered the Indoc exam (50 questions, multiple choice). It is open book, open note, and is basically straight out of the FOM subjects you've reviewed up to that point. The second is at the end of the second week and covers the General Operational Subjects (GOS). Another 50-question, multiple choice, open book, open note test.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
You will be AQP, which means no oral (this is great news for us). There are two tests during Indoc, one after about 3 days of class and is considered the Indoc exam (50 questions, multiple choice). It is open book, open note, and is basically straight out of the FOM subjects you've reviewed up to that point. The second is at the end of the second week and covers the General Operational Subjects (GOS). Another 50-question, multiple choice, open book, open note test.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
More importantly, is lunch still being catered?
I doubt it!
03-05-2019, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
I posted this in another thread about 10 days ago:
You will be AQP, which means no oral (this is great news for us). There are two tests during Indoc, one after about 3 days of class and is considered the Indoc exam (50 questions, multiple choice). It is open book, open note, and is basically straight out of the FOM subjects you've reviewed up to that point. The second is at the end of the second week and covers the General Operational Subjects (GOS). Another 50-question, multiple choice, open book, open note test.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
You will be AQP, which means no oral (this is great news for us). There are two tests during Indoc, one after about 3 days of class and is considered the Indoc exam (50 questions, multiple choice). It is open book, open note, and is basically straight out of the FOM subjects you've reviewed up to that point. The second is at the end of the second week and covers the General Operational Subjects (GOS). Another 50-question, multiple choice, open book, open note test.
After you return for systems after the two weeks of home study on the iPad, on that Thursday (assuming you start Monday), you will take a 100-question Systems Validation exam on the iPad. It is closed book, and you will take it in class. If you know the Review Questions in Chapter 9 of the Supplemental Study Guide down cold, you will do very well on this test. That said, take the systems week seriously. It's a great opportunity to bring a lot of the concepts together, and I think that week is an extremely effective time for the different things you've been studying to start coalescing.
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