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featheredprop 03-12-2012 12:43 PM

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We will see what the lawyer says, but I can see either me having a case, or the company having to force the contract (retro) on every person who ever broke it. (Which I have proof that they haven't as of yet) I'm sure that will fix their recruitment problems once that hits the streets.

keep us posted on how much it costs you to do that . Why dont you see if you can do a class action ...might save you some $ .

MoarAlpha 03-12-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 1148966)
People sign a training contract and then bash Republic for enforcing it when they bail 6 months later? What do you expect? If I was BB I'd sell it to a collection agency and let them deal with it.

Maybe my ignorance on the subject is creating my bias, but why is enforcing a training contract you we're aware of prior to going to class now so shocking?

Have other people gotten away without paying it previously and you expected to not have to pay if if you left early? If that's the case you may not have much to stand on. :confused:

JamesNoBrakes 03-12-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1150709)
Have other people gotten away without paying it previously and you expected to not have to pay if if you left early? If that's the case you may not have much to stand on. :confused:

Well, it is kind of common in the industry from what I've experienced and seen. That's why if someone can "lawyer out of it", more power too them IMO. It honestly seems like it's used more as a way to "get back at" someone and is not enforced consistantly.

KSCessnaDriver 03-19-2012 09:39 PM

Hate to drag this one back up, but wouldn't the fact that they are selectively choosing who to enforce them on (if it is true that people in the past didn't have them enforced upon them) be a big legal obstacle?

BigToe 03-20-2012 07:09 AM

How much is RAH's training contract for and for how long. Does the contract start form the date you get hired/begin training or from when you pass sim check or IOE?

Thanks in advance.

FutureFO 03-20-2012 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigToe (Post 1154843)
How much is RAH's training contract for and for how long. Does the contract start form the date you get hired/begin training or from when you pass sim check or IOE?

Thanks in advance.

15K prorated for 2 years. Starts on the first day of class.

DeltaPaySoon 03-20-2012 07:29 AM

The OP and anyone else that is getting tagged with this letter should be able to get out of paying it. The company doesn't have any legal authority to arbitrarily attempt to recoup pay out of necessity, slow times, more organized, etc. If the company has missed sending this letter to a large group of individuals, which it sounds like they have, then there is precedent on the desire to enforce the terms of the contract.

Had the company been diligent in trying to recoup from everyone equally from the start, then they would have more legal grounds to recoup now. I would still contact a lawyer to handle correspondence but I would be shocked if any legal entity would enforce such a shoddy and arbitrary attempt at recouping training costs when it's been convenient for them.

ColdWhiskey 03-20-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaPaySoon (Post 1154859)
The OP and anyone else that is getting tagged with this letter should be able to get out of paying it. The company doesn't have any legal authority to arbitrarily attempt to recoup pay out of necessity, slow times, more organized, etc. If the company has missed sending this letter to a large group of individuals, which it sounds like they have, then there is precedent on the desire to enforce the terms of the contract.

Had the company been diligent in trying to recoup from everyone equally from the start, then they would have more legal grounds to recoup now. I would still contact a lawyer to handle correspondence but I would be shocked if any legal entity would enforce such a shoddy and arbitrary attempt at recouping training costs when it's been convenient for them.

So by your logic, in the past the local highway patrol has not always enforced the speed limit (by allowing some drivers to travel up to 5 or 6 mph over the limit), and as such, are no longer permitted to give me a ticket for going 70 in a 65 zone?

BoilerUP 03-20-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey (Post 1154904)
So by your logic, in the past the local highway patrol has not always enforced the speed limit (by allowing some drivers to travel up to 5 or 6 mph over the limit), and as such, are no longer permitted to give me a ticket for going 70 in a 65 zone?

That's an apples and grapefruit type of comparison.

Past precedence is a very important topic when it comes to contract law. If RAH has a past precedence of selective and/or punitive enforcement of its training contract and it can be proven, that will be powerful evidence for having the contract ruled invalid.

nordo 03-20-2012 10:29 AM

There was an attorney in a class at S5, his opinion, FWIW, was that the "contract" wasn't worth the paper it was printed on for a variety of reasons not the last if which IIRC was the form of how it was drawn up, which I gather in Promissory Notes is right important. All that being said, I'm just going off memory of what he said in the break room at the training center. Consult an attorney, see what answer you get, and post it back here; it'll be interesting to see what comes of it all.


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