Republic Deceiving ATP-CTP Practices!
 

Friends;

Just came to learn via Republic's own "welcome letter" the most deceiving practice I have yet to see at any of these Regionals.
First, Republic clearly advertises on their website they will pay for your ATP-CTP course( along with the uniforms, IPad etc) However, they make no mention whatsoever until you are hired when they send you a welcome letter that clearly states YOU will be taxed on a 1099 form for the full cost of the ATP-CTP course not to exceed $4,500 PLUS hotel costs and other expenses they may incur!!
In addition, should you not be able to make their chosen date for initial training, otherwise you are expected to reimburse Republic their entire costs for the ATP-CTP course again plus their hotel and airfare
Way to go Republic! Republic must really think Pilots are morons..
Wait until Republic get's sued for deceiving practices.

I hear they tax your paycheck as well.

It's compensation. I'd imagine it's only a 1099 because you're not really an employee yet. I don't see how that's deception.
Win a car from a game show, you pay taxes on it. The government IS going to get "theirs"

Yeah, you’re not an employee yet. Wait until the job market becomes a buyers market again. You’ll have to float the cash to pay for that yourself, but don’t worry, you won’t see that 1099 for not having to pay for it.


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So you think $4500 in training/expenses should be absolutely free and unconditional? Man...life can be so unfair!

Yeah, you are gonna be taxed for it. As others have said the cost that Republic covers is compensation that doesn't fall under regular employment. Therefore, you will be issued a 1099 as you would for any kind of miscellaneous compensation of a large amount that you received from anywhere.

Apparently you haven't done many self-employment related tax returns in the past or this would not be a surprise to you. Nonetheless, since you are surprised you should also be aware that this is standard tax withholding procedure considering you are not yet an employee while taking the ATP-CTP.

A fix that could prevent that from happening is to make the new hires actual employees on their ATP-CTP start date. One possible reason this has not happened is that it would screw over the guys who already have their ATP (i.e., current 121 pilots) who would be junior to the ATP-CTP students in their indoc class.

The point many of you are missing is that you should never pay for or be taxed on training, this is training required for your job so it should be not be an expense for you in any way.
In addition, most all answers seen to overlook the point I am trying to make which is deceive potential pilots by false advertisement on what they pay you as a benefit.

Why are the points mentioned above so hard for some of you to understand and sympathize with? We are professionals and as such we shouldn't let some in the industry take advantage of us by making false promises they modify to their advantage.

This is simply not professional from any corporation regardless of the industry they are conducting business at.

Go ask any other professionals in any other field and perhaps you can appreciate the basis on what I am making these statements on before you jump in and defend their deceiving practices

The difference being this is training required just to meet basic requirements for employment, which you aren't otherwise qualified for. Aircraft/company specific training is another story.

What you seem to be missing is that the ATP-CTP is required by the FAA (not Republic) in order to take the ATP written and get your rating.

I think your point is somewhat valid, but it is not the airline that should be the target of your frustration. ATP-CTP is an FAA requirement. Republic needs qualified applicants and they actually do absorb the cost of you getting your actual ATP rating if you think about it. However, they need the ATP-CTP needs to be completed prior to your hire date.

The airlines used to require the ATP written be completed before being considered for an interview....well ATP-CTP is required before you can take the written these days. You would have to pay out of pocket 4-5k, not including lodging and meals yourself if the airline did not offer this program.

They need qualified applicants and none of us want to drop another 4-5k on the ATP-CTP...WIN WIN brother!

And as Flightcap said, due to seniority issues, the company doesn't bring you on as an employee until after CTP is completed.

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This scenario isn’t exclusive to Republic, as someone else pointed out on another thread.