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greendotplus10 12-20-2018 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by IFlyThings (Post 2728025)
As a piece of data, almost 30% of IND FOs will be sitting reserve in January. Paradoxically, it looks like reserve times at junior bases are increasing due to a surplus of pilots, instead of a shortage of them. Should even out as the training pipeline dries up for a couple of months, and YMMV at other bases.

I concur, it looks like that's the case in all bases. In the initial award nearly half of IAH FOs are on reserve next month.

planesense 12-22-2018 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by glassnpowder98 (Post 2723602)
LGA now has Shake Shack. So when your go home day gets blown up with EDCTs you can eat your way to happiness. But in reality your line of reasoning is pretty good- you’ll be commuting no matter what, so pick a base with a lot of flight options and where you can gain seniority quickly so you obtain the ability to better bid your schedule for commutability and days off. See you in LGA and I’ll buy you a beer if you don’t try to kill me.

Lol so I guess you’re a check airman? I’ll take you up on that beer, because I don’t plan on dying!

planesense 12-22-2018 06:43 AM

12/11 class base assignments
 
Lga - 8
ind - 7
ewr - 6
pit - 4
cmh - 2

direct2entent 12-22-2018 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by greendotplus10 (Post 2728652)
I concur, it looks like that's the case in all bases. In the initial award nearly half of IAH FOs are on reserve next month.

Might the reserve increase especially at IND be a seasonal thing too?

TheWeatherman 12-23-2018 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by direct2entent (Post 2730062)
Might the reserve increase especially at IND be a seasonal thing too?

Every base has more reserves during the winter as flying is reduced across the board.

ChopNDrop 12-28-2018 02:05 AM

I know that flying isn't as plentiful in the winter as it is in the summer, and we are fat on FOs right now. That being said, anyone have a guess as to why PIT has 20 vacancies this go around? Normally I wouldn't worry about it, but it had way more vacancies than any other base did.

Captain Slow 12-28-2018 06:09 AM

Vacancies in base isn't a bad sign. Losing pilots every month with no vacancies is a bad sign.

My guess is a bunch of newhires got put into PIT and they all moved out when they got enough seniority to do so. Happens periodically.

TheWeatherman 12-28-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by ChopNDrop (Post 2732566)
I know that flying isn't as plentiful in the winter as it is in the summer, and we are fat on FOs right now. That being said, anyone have a guess as to why PIT has 20 vacancies this go around? Normally I wouldn't worry about it, but it had way more vacancies than any other base did.

If you are looking at vacancies as each bases's need for FOs then you are looking at it wrong. Sure, that is usually the case for places like ORD, PHL, IAH and MIA. But for the outstations it is more like we got this many FOs anticipated to come out of training, where the heck can we put them?

glassnpowder98 12-28-2018 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by planesense (Post 2729590)
Lol so I guess you’re a check airman? I’ll take you up on that beer, because I don’t plan on dying!

No, but I’m junior enough to get the pleasure to fly with everyone fresh off IOE. Like a babysitter for a kid that can shovel food in its own mouth and not poop themselves most of the time.

Viking6 12-29-2018 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by glassnpowder98 (Post 2732679)
No, but I’m junior enough to get the pleasure to fly with everyone fresh off IOE. Like a babysitter for a kid that can shovel food in its own mouth and not poop themselves most of the time.

That’s just part of the job description, but I think the current new hires shouldn’t scare you as much. They’ve been very selective the last 6 or so months, and it shows in the new hire training performance.

Viking6 12-29-2018 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by ChopNDrop (Post 2732566)
I know that flying isn't as plentiful in the winter as it is in the summer, and we are fat on FOs right now. That being said, anyone have a guess as to why PIT has 20 vacancies this go around? Normally I wouldn't worry about it, but it had way more vacancies than any other base did.

Planning has to make spots to put all the new hires. We’re overstaffed on the FO side, so they are just trying to balance the bases. They’re in the dark about what the long term plans are (additional airframes), so they’re just reacting to the increase in pilot supply.

ChopNDrop 12-29-2018 05:08 AM

[QUOTE=Viking6;2733145]Planning has to make spots to put all the new hires. We’re overstaffed on the FO side, so they are just trying to balance the bases. They’re in the dark about what the long term plans are (additional airframes), so they’re just reacting to the increase in pilot supply.[/QUOTE


Sounds good. With the latest junior lines this month, PIT is attractive but only if there was something to the 20+ vacancies. Currently I am IND based and PIT's junior line holder is only one class ahead so I guess it isn't worth the hassle... Especially since I would be commuting (ATL) to either one.

IDrive175 02-03-2019 09:20 AM

So the latest new hire class just had 25 (out of 36) FO's assigned to PIT. Given that, plus the fact that the only vacancies posted for June are at PIT, is it reasonable to think that someone from a 2018 training class might want to bid PIT in order to hold a line sooner?

Random Task 02-03-2019 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by IDrive175 (Post 2755901)
So the latest new hire class just had 25 (out of 36) FO's assigned to PIT. Given that, plus the fact that the only vacancies posted for June are at PIT, is it reasonable to think that someone from a 2018 training class might want to bid PIT in order to hold a line sooner?

Consider the fact that the latest training class wont be flying until June, you'd still be at the bottom for a while. LGA is pretty consistently the most junior base to hold a line. I don't see why that would change.

Longhornmaniac8 02-08-2019 03:40 PM

Well, with the new vacancy award, IAH is now the most senior base on the FO side by almost 100 numbers. 10 new backfill awards into MIA, compared to only 3 into IAH.

Good news for everyone wanting MIA! It's junior award is only about 250 spots above the most junior new hire right now.

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daytonav8r 02-09-2019 07:39 AM

Any idea how likely a new hire would be to get CMH if he really wanted it?

A.FLOOR 02-09-2019 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by daytonav8r (Post 2760510)
Any idea how likely a new hire would be to get CMH if he really wanted it?

I believe it's still pretty JR. By the time you do your IOE you should be able to hold CMH if not sooner.

daytonav8r 02-09-2019 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by pilotnicco (Post 2760517)
I believe it's still pretty JR. By the time you do your IOE you should be able to hold CMH is not sooner.

Good to know. Thanks for the information! I'm in the 4/30 class, and I live an hour from CMH. If I'm not mistaken it's the second largest base in the system, so I'd think it somewhat attainable for a junior FO.

05Duramax 02-09-2019 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by daytonav8r (Post 2760510)
Any idea how likely a new hire would be to get CMH if he really wanted it?

In the last new hire class 7 guys were assigned CMH as their initial base.

fortyeight 02-09-2019 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by greendotplus10 (Post 2679645)
It's not quite that easy once you upgrade. I've got a table of my own going to keep an eye on the trends for CA bases.

Least senior to most senior CA bases and the span of the bottom 10 DOHs...

EWR: 12/15 to 9/15
LGA: 12/15 to 6/15
PIT: 7/15 to 6/14
DCA: 4/15 to 10/14
CMH: 3/15 to 9/14
MIA: 3/15 to 3/13
PHL: 12/14 to 9/13
IND: 10/14 to 1/14
MCI: 5/14 to 3/11
IAH: 11/13 to 3/07
ORD: 11/13 to 6/07

ORD is such a joke at this company.

greendotplus10 02-09-2019 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2760685)
ORD is such a joke at this company.


It is, and ORD CAs hired after 2007 are outliers. I didn’t have all the information when I made that post. 2004 hires are on reserve, forcing some to leave or move to other bases. Some 40+ captain vacancies would need to happen in order to make ORD as junior as LGA. ORD used to be a much larger base than it is now, creating this problem.

fortyeight 02-09-2019 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by greendotplus10 (Post 2760700)
It is, and ORD CAs hired after 2007 are outliers. I didn’t have all the information when I made that post. 2004 hires are on reserve, forcing some to leave or move to other bases. Some 40+ captain vacancies would need to happen in order to make ORD as junior as LGA. ORD used to be a much larger base than it is now, creating this problem.

Republic has zero interest in doing anything to benefit ORD. Mike Dee has come right out and said they’re not growing or even maintaining Chicago. The only reason it’s even a base, much like IAH, is to show it in their recruiting material. Otherwise BB would be all to happy to be a NY and outstation airline. We’ll never compete with Skywest or any other airline west of the Mississippi with this business model.

Ihavenoidea 03-22-2019 07:49 PM

I was told that IAH FO was attainable 8 months after DOH. Is this still accurate today or has this increased? Don’t even want to know how long it would take to hold CA lol

IDrive175 03-22-2019 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ihavenoidea (Post 2787903)
I was told that IAH FO was attainable 8 months after DOH. Is this still accurate today or has this increased? Don’t even want to know how long it would take to hold CA lol

I think that's ambitious at best. Such a small base, and VERY little movement. And some here would tell you it might not even exist in 8 months.

VASBYT 03-23-2019 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Ihavenoidea (Post 2787903)
I was told that IAH FO was attainable 8 months after DOH. Is this still accurate today or has this increased? Don’t even want to know how long it would take to hold CA lol

This is true, however, there have been no actual FO vacacies for IAH since April. I believe those that have been awarded have been backfills. An April 2016 hire was just awarded a IAH Captain slot in January.

Irishblackbird 03-28-2019 08:16 AM

Anyone have any info on how long to hold a CMH out of training and reserve times? Thanks

BosoxH60 03-28-2019 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 2791841)
Anyone have any info on how long to hold a CMH out of training and reserve times? Thanks

April's bid has 8/7/18 as the most junior composite line holder in CMH.

I can tell you that they've got 4 FO positions for the bid effective August 1st...

05Duramax 03-28-2019 10:40 AM

In the last couple of new hire classes CMH was assigned to half the class. Of course that is as of right now, but you should be able to get it right away.

Irishblackbird 03-28-2019 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by BosoxH60 (Post 2791850)
April's bid has 8/7/18 as the most junior composite line holder in CMH.

I can tell you that they've got 4 FO positions for the bid effective August 1st...

Thanks guy's for the info. When you say composite line, is this a line made up of reserve and line flying?

Irishblackbird 03-28-2019 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by 05Duramax (Post 2791938)
In the last couple of new hire classes CMH was assigned to half the class. Of course that is as of right now, but you should be able to get it right away.

Is this the case where pilots are assigned a base until they can hold an award at another base? Also, is parking paid for in your base?Thanks

05Duramax 03-28-2019 12:24 PM

I haven't figured out the parking part yet myself. Hopefully someone else can chime in.

Your assigned a base in training, then you can bid for whatever base you want. Except for a few exceptions you can get most bases on your first bid.

Wilfortina 03-28-2019 12:56 PM

Yes parking is paid for in your base

TheWeatherman 03-28-2019 01:11 PM

Parking is paid up to what would be paid at the base you are assigned, you need to submit parking receipts to get reimbursed up to that amount. If it would cost Republic $100 a month to get you employee parking at the base you are assigned, and it costs you $200 a month to park at the base you commute from, you get $100. If it costs you $50, you get $50.

Looking at class assignments is a pointless exercise as it constantly changes and most of those people end up getting to the base they want by the end of IOE any way. That's why I stopped posting/commenting on them long ago.

Ihavenoidea 03-28-2019 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 2792078)
Parking is paid up to what would be paid at the base you are assigned, you need to submit parking receipts to get reimbursed up to that amount. If it would cost Republic $100 a month to get you employee parking at the base you are assigned, and it costs you $200 a month to park at the base you commute from, you get $100. If it costs you $50, you get $50.

Looking at class assignments is a pointless exercise as it constantly changes and most of those people end up getting to the base they want by the end of IOE any way. That's why I stopped posting/commenting on them long ago.

With the exception of IAH and MIA, not sure if MCI is attainable that early either but maybe.

TheWeatherman 03-28-2019 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ihavenoidea (Post 2792129)
With the exception of IAH and MIA, not sure if MCI is attainable that early either but maybe.

Even with those bases, every once in a while very junior FOs have been able to hold it. Both have been open for more then a year, and the initial rush of jr. FOs that bid and transferred to those bases are now upgrading to CA, leaving more openings.

Ihavenoidea 03-28-2019 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 2792131)
Even with those bases, every once in a while very junior FOs have been able to hold it. Both have been open for more then a year, and the initial rush of jr. FOs that bid and transferred to those bases are now upgrading to CA, leaving more openings.

Does EWR have commuteable trips? I know the outstations are typically less commuter friendly.

Web265 03-29-2019 06:06 AM

Since no one else replied, I'll give it a shot. Not a commuter, junior-ish line holder.

Seems to me (looking at my schedule), a lot of trips are commutable on one end, meaning they start late morning or early afternoon.

My earliest show time in April is 12 noon. Most of the trips I've been getting that start late also end late(ish) 9pm-11pm. So you might be able to look at schedules between where you would be commuting from and EWR.

Having said that, a LOT of the Captains that I've been flying with commute and make it work without too much stress. (drop a turn at the end of the trip or something similar to make both ends commutable.)


Originally Posted by Ihavenoidea (Post 2792164)
Does EWR have commuteable trips? I know the outstations are typically less commuter friendly.



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