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Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2686883)

According to DAL, the Bombardier C was to be replacing larger than 50 seat RJs, so those Larger RJs could be replacing 50 seat RJs, thus upgauging the fleet.

It does, however, have a VERY long range, so it could do many flights that were impossible on any RJ (or MD-88/MD-90/B-717), and even some small Airbuses and the Boeing 737, I believe. An example that Bombardier used, was a typical load nonstop from London City airport to Montreal using the smaller CS-100.

DALs spectacular pricing on the CS-100 was contingent upon using it on routes that were less than 1000 miles... allegedly.

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Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2687208)

DALs spectacular pricing on the CS-100 was contingent upon using it on routes that were less than 1000 miles... allegedly.

interesting..

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Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2687208)

DALs spectacular pricing on the CS-100 was contingent upon using it on routes that were less than 1000 miles... allegedly.

Can you cite that claim?

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Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 2687521)

Can you cite that claim?

There’s some reporting on the topic

https://leehamnews.com/2017/05/25/bo...ompany-claims/

“Parenthetically, the Delta testimony revealed that its transaction with BBD priced the CS100 as a 1,000-mile airplane. Should Delta begin using the aircraft on longer routes, additional monies will be paid to Bombardier. The CS100 has a range of more than 2,900nm.”

Who wrote this. That is the dumbest claim thinking Delta will have to pay a surcharge if they fly it over 1000 miles.. Im sure Delta is set up on autopay using a Delta skymiles card also. Atleast they will earn points....

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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2686735)

Eventually, sure. And I’m okay if flying is absorbed by mainline. More jobs for us. But initially the A220 is to replace/supplement the MD80/717 fleet.

There are no current plans to retire 717’s. Replacement airframes for the MD88/90 are the 737-900 and A321. The A220 is planned mostly to replace larger RJ flying and some nitch long haul flying. The larger RJ’s freed up will trickle down allowing Delta to park 50 seaters.
Delta will owe a very small penalty if they average over 1000 miles per leg.

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Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2687627)

Actually Delta will have to pay. If they wouldn’t pay, then Boeing could take this back to court for dumping. That’s why this case was thrown out of court to begin with as they were able to justify the price they paid.

If Skywest or Republic (assuming future orders) decide to make any 175SC into a 76 seat jet, they too will have to pay Embraer to recertify the planes into the 76 seat configuration.

This isn’t anything new either. Mainline aircraft have always had more options and configurations, including derating options, available compared to Regional aircraft.

Delta’s 1000nm range is an average from what I gather, not a hard limit unlike the seating in the 175SC.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2687650)

I doubt Delta will have to pay anything at all. As soon as Airbus takes full control, and with the new NAFTA agreement, there is really no penalty unless Airbus decided to enforce it on Delta, which seems unlikely. I would still wager the A220 is a growth aircraft, not an RJ replacement.

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