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Old 11-05-2018, 08:13 AM
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10/15 Indoc Class, given PIT as my initial base. Currently live in Chicago and long term want to stay in Chicago, but debating my options. Options I'm currently considering: (1) Move to PIT for a year and then (I'd imagine) I can hold a line at ORD so I move back, or (2) Commute to PIT, try and get ORD as quickly as possible.

Anyone have thoughts as to whats likely my best course of action? Any other options I hadn't considered? Anyone know what reserve time is looking like at those bases?

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Looks like it’s taking about 8 months to hold a line at each base. If you live near ORD I’d personally get that base as soon as possible and wait out reserve as opposed to commuting to PIT. Most junior ORD FO is 5/18 DOH.

ORD CA will take a while to hold if the company doesn’t change how that base is staffed. It just recently went one year more senior. Junior CA is 1/13 DOH.
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10 View Post
Looks like it’s taking about 8 months to hold a line at each base. Most junior ORD FO is 5/18 DOH.

Junior CA is 1/13 DOH.
Possibly stupid question from a recent new hire. Where do I find this info? Flica?
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Originally Posted by direct2entent View Post
Possibly stupid question from a recent new hire. Where do I find this info? Flica?


The final schedule awards can be found in Flica. From there you can see what each person got. Then find their name or seniority number in the monthly seniority list (download it via Comply) to see their DOH. The seniority lists are also in Flica.
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10 View Post
The final schedule awards can be found in Flica. From there you can see what each person got. Then find their name or seniority number in the monthly seniority list (download it via Comply) to see their DOH. The seniority lists are also in Flica.
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Put in a standing bid for ORD and you will get it within a few months. In the meantime commute to PIT which isn't a bad commute from ORD, a lot of flights per day. FO at ORD is just as good if not better then most other bases. Different story with CA though unless things change.
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"ORD CA will take a while to hold if the company doesn’t change how that base is staffed. It just recently went one year more senior. Junior CA is 1/13 DOH."

1/13 DOH CA is an outlier. next guy up on the list is somewhere in the 2007-2008 range.
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Originally Posted by DigDougShovelCo View Post
Hi All,
10/15 Indoc Class, given PIT as my initial base. Currently live in Chicago and long term want to stay in Chicago, but debating my options. Options I'm currently considering: (1) Move to PIT for a year and then (I'd imagine) I can hold a line at ORD so I move back, or (2) Commute to PIT, try and get ORD as quickly as possible.

Anyone have thoughts as to whats likely my best course of action? Any other options I hadn't considered? Anyone know what reserve time is looking like at those bases?
You should be able to get ORD within 6 months as FO. I wouldn’t expect to ever upgrade into ORD. Two junior captains have swapped in, but the from bottom is a 2008 hire. Maybe look into IND
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Originally Posted by TJBrass View Post
"ORD CA will take a while to hold if the company doesn’t change how that base is staffed. It just recently went one year more senior. Junior CA is 1/13 DOH."



1/13 DOH CA is an outlier. next guy up on the list is somewhere in the 2007-2008 range.


Since I’ve been around I also haven’t seen a single ORD CA vacancy or backfill award. If some were to be offered they’ll go senior because of a significant backlog of denied bids. But I agree 07-08 is a more typical DOH for junior ORD CA, and they’re on reserve.
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10 View Post
Since I’ve been around I also haven’t seen a single ORD CA vacancy or backfill award. If some were to be offered they’ll go senior because of a significant backlog of denied bids. But I agree 07-08 is a more typical DOH for junior ORD CA, and they’re on reserve.


The last vacancy award for ORD CA was 8/2016. There have been a couple that have been able to sneak in on a base trade. There have been plenty that have left ORD as CAs to other bases and a ton that were FOs (raises hand) that upgraded into a junior base as a commuter that can’t get back.
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