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Captain base seniority
Dedicated thread for keeping track of captain base seniority trends. I'll add updates when notable changes occur.
Nov. 2018 Base (Size) Junior DOH - Time to move up 10 spots - Time to move up 20 spots LGA (139) 2/2016 - 5m - 1y 3m EWR (133) 1/2016 - 1m - 4m (most junior out of training 12/2015) PIT (122) 10/2015 - 6m - 1y 5m PHL (47) 10/2015 - 2y 10m - 8y 10m Has become 10 months more junior since September, but becomes senior quickly CMH (149) 8/2015 - 4m - 11m Has become 5 months more junior since September MIA (92) 6/2015 - 1y 11m - 2y 7m DCA (123) 4/2015 - 9m - 1y 6m IND (175) 2/2015 - 11m - 1y 8m Has become 4 months more junior since September MCI (58) 8/2014 - 1y 6m - 6y 8m IAH (25) 1/2014 - 6y 8m - 12y 11m ORD (76) 1/2013 - 5y 9m* - 6y 6m *Some 2012 hires can be more senior to 2007 hires. |
Originally Posted by greendotplus10
(Post 2703638)
Dedicated thread for keeping track of captain base seniority trends. I'll add updates when notable changes occur.
Nov. 2018 Base (Size) Junior DOH - Time to move up 10 spots - Time to move up 20 spots LGA (139) 2/2016 - 5m - 1y 3m EWR (133) 1/2016 - 1m - 4m (most junior out of training 12/2015) PIT (122) 10/2015 - 6m - 1y 5m PHL (47) 10/2015 - 2y 10m - 8y 10m Has become 10 months more junior since September, but becomes senior quickly CMH (149) 8/2015 - 4m - 11m Has become 5 months more junior since September MIA (92) 6/2015 - 1y 11m - 2y 7m DCA (123) 4/2015 - 9m - 1y 6m IND (175) 2/2015 - 11m - 1y 8m Has become 4 months more junior since September MCI (58) 8/2014 - 1y 6m - 6y 8m IAH (25) 1/2014 - 6y 8m - 12y 11m ORD (76) 1/2013 - 5y 9m* - 6y 6m *Some 2012 hires can be more senior to 2007 hires. you the real MVP |
March 2019 upgrade awards
Most junior upgrades awarded, effective March 2019
Base: Junior awarded - Difference from last bid junior awarded LGA: SEP 2016 (just under 2y 6m) - 7m EWR: AUG 2016 - 7m PIT: FEB 2016 - 4m CMH: FEB 2016 - 6m |
The November Captain vacancies closed early this month with the junior award going to someone on property 2 years, 2 months.
The December vacancies will close on Dec 5th and we should see the results a few days after that. |
Originally Posted by Random Task
(Post 2716169)
The November Captain vacancies closed early this month with the junior award going to someone on property 2 years, 2 months.
The December vacancies will close on Dec 5th and we should see the results a few days after that. The bid that closes on the 5th of every month is effective 4 months later, and upgrade training begins about 1 month before the effective date. A memo was sent out earlier in the month about the bid that closed November 5th, effective March 2nd. From this I was able to see that the junior upgrade was just shy of 2 years, 6 months (DOH to effective date). |
Originally Posted by greendotplus10
(Post 2716271)
Just to clarify, are you seeing a 2 year, 2 month upgrade from DOH to effective date, or to posted date?
The bid that closes on the 5th of every month is effective 4 months later, and upgrade training begins about 1 month before the effective date. A memo was sent out earlier in the month about the bid that closed November 5th, effective March 2nd. From this I was able to see that the junior upgrade was just shy of 2 years, 6 months (DOH to effective date). |
December 2018 updates
Base (size): Junior DOH / 10 above most junior DOH
LGA (145): MAR 16 / JAN 16 EWR (134): FEB 16 / DEC 15 PHL (47): JAN 16 / AUG 13 PIT (122): OCT 15 / JUL 15 CMH (148): AUG 15 / APR 15 MIA (92): JUN 15 / JUL 13 DCA (121): APR 15 / JUL 14 IND (174): FEB 15 / MAR 14 MCI (58): AUG 14 / FEB 13 IAH (25): JAN 14 / MAY 07 ORD (76): don't ask Junior lines (hard line / *possible line) *Bidding preferences and/or pre-assigned activities may allow you to hold a line or composite line sooner. Examples: bid single days off, allow composite lines to be awarded, PDO/vacation, recurrent training, or military duty. LGA: APR 14 / JUL 15 PIT: APR 14 / JUN 14 DCA: JAN 14 / MAY 14 EWR: OCT 13 / NOV 15 CMH: OCT 13 / DEC 14 PHL: AUG 13 IND: AUG 12 / JAN 14 MIA: APR 12 / JUN 12 IAH: MAY 11 MCI: MAR 08 / SEP 11 ORD: JAN 07 4 month base staffing trends (SEP-DEC) LGA +6 EWR -8 PIT +9 DCA -2 CMH +3 MIA +1 PHL 0 IND +5 MCI +3 IAH 0 ORD -10 |
Originally Posted by greendotplus10
(Post 2720398)
Base (size): Junior DOH / 10 above most junior DOH
LGA (145): MAR 16 / JAN 16 EWR (134): FEB 16 / DEC 15 PHL (47): JAN 16 / AUG 13 PIT (122): OCT 15 / JUL 15 CMH (148): AUG 15 / APR 15 MIA (92): JUN 15 / JUL 13 DCA (121): APR 15 / JUL 14 IND (174): FEB 15 / MAR 14 MCI (58): AUG 14 / FEB 13 IAH (25): JAN 14 / MAY 07 ORD (76): don't ask Junior lines (hard line / *possible line) *Bidding preferences and/or pre-assigned activities may allow you to hold a line or composite line sooner. Examples: bid single days off, allow composite lines to be awarded, PDO/vacation, recurrent training, or military duty. LGA: APR 14 / JUL 15 PIT: APR 14 / JUN 14 DCA: JAN 14 / MAY 14 EWR: OCT 13 / NOV 15 CMH: OCT 13 / DEC 14 PHL: AUG 13 IND: AUG 12 / JAN 14 MIA: APR 12 / JUN 12 IAH: MAY 11 MCI: MAR 08 / SEP 11 ORD: JAN 07 4 month base staffing trends (SEP-DEC) LGA +6 EWR -8 PIT +9 DCA -2 CMH +3 MIA +1 PHL 0 IND +5 MCI +3 IAH 0 ORD -10 |
Originally Posted by Random Task
(Post 2716300)
Via the posted date, so that individual should be a line captain by 2 yrs 6 mos.
The number is certainly coming down...just how far it will go (and if it stays there) I suppose is anyone's guess. |
Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
(Post 2722318)
To piggyback on this with the December 2018 Awards/Seniority List now published, the most junior captain backfill award was an 11/29/2016 hire. This means that individual was awarded, for all intents and purposes, right at 2 years, meaning 2 years 3 months until they go to training, and 2 years 4 months until they're on the line.
The number is certainly coming down...just how far it will go (and if it stays there) I suppose is anyone's guess. I hope it stays right where it’s at... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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