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TheWeatherman 05-04-2019 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2814092)
Not even new flying. Existing flying as well. ORD is a shell of what it once was due to Skywest and Envoy taking all of the Delta and American flying. Just a few years ago Republic was one of, if not the largest regional carriers in Chicago. Now we’re down to 34 daily departures. Skywest continues to grow in LGA and Republic can’t get west of the freaking Mississippi. I honestly don’t remember the last time I flew to a state that even borders the Mississippi.

Republic is just too expensive. That’s all there is to it. If the codeshare partners really cared about performance and reliability it would be Republic coast to coast, not Skywest. It’s all about money and that’s been made 100% clear this last year with Skywest’s presence only growing on the east. Only a matter of time until they get their hands on some American 170’s... and as soon as that happens well, good luck Republic lol. Hope you had fun being the BEST.

If anyone thinks those 100 170’s are actually coming for growth opportunities I’ve got a bridge for sale.

Republic is a joke. If I were a pilot trying to decide which regional to spend the next 5 years at I’d stay as far away from RPA as possible.

You must do only American flying. United spends a lot of time west of the Mississippi. GJT, ABQ, ELP, SLC, RAP, BZM overnights. But then you guys get all those long Caribbean overnights in the winter which we don't get, so it can't be all complaints.

ItnStln 05-04-2019 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Viking6 (Post 2811107)
The FO I was flying with had it, but I believe it was pilot-to-pilot podcast. I’m sure the company has a link somewhere to it as well.

I just found it, thanks!

ItnStln 05-04-2019 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by JayD (Post 2811235)
I think this is the link for it:

https://pilottopilot.libsyn.com/lift-academy

That’s it, thanks!

itsmytime 05-04-2019 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2814092)
Not even new flying. Existing flying as well. ORD is a shell of what it once was due to Skywest and Envoy taking all of the Delta and American flying. Just a few years ago Republic was one of, if not the largest regional carriers in Chicago. Now we’re down to 34 daily departures. Skywest continues to grow in LGA and Republic can’t get west of the freaking Mississippi. I honestly don’t remember the last time I flew to a state that even borders the Mississippi.

Republic is just too expensive. That’s all there is to it. If the codeshare partners really cared about performance and reliability it would be Republic coast to coast, not Skywest. It’s all about money and that’s been made 100% clear this last year with Skywest’s presence only growing on the east. Only a matter of time until they get their hands on some American 170’s... and as soon as that happens well, good luck Republic lol. Hope you had fun being the BEST.

If anyone thinks those 100 170’s are actually coming for growth opportunities I’ve got a bridge for sale.

Republic is a joke. If I were a pilot trying to decide which regional to spend the next 5 years at I’d stay as far away from RPA as possible.

Strange to see a republic pilot on here that isn’t all sunshine and rainbows. Other than kcaviator, every other republic pilot on this forum would have you thinking its as good as a mainline job. Heck, the guys in the majors forum have more gripes than Republic pilots.

TheWeatherman 05-04-2019 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2814308)
Strange to see a republic pilot on here that isn’t all sunshine and rainbows. Other than kcaviator, every other republic pilot on this forum would have you thinking its as good as a mainline job. Heck, the guys in the majors forum have more gripes than Republic pilots.

He has a grievance that isn't getting the attention he thinks it should get, so he is a little bitter right now.

stabapch 05-04-2019 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2814308)
Strange to see a republic pilot on here that isn’t all sunshine and rainbows. Other than kcaviator, every other republic pilot on this forum would have you thinking its as good as a mainline job. Heck, the guys in the majors forum have more gripes than Republic pilots.

I’m not all “sunshine and rainbows” but I have no gripes about Republic. Pilots in general just complain about EVERYTHING no matter how many digits are on the paycheck. I had a DPE years ago who was a United FO *****ing about his future trip to somewhere in Asia was a ****hole....he worked one trip a month.... It ain’t the company it’s your OWN perspective on life, blame YOURSELF! Unions are at fault for this because they make you believe you always deserve more for giving NOTHING more to your employer. Reality check for those that never worked outside of an aviation career...you have to put in to get out! Welcome to life outside of socialism! Millennials have this problem...expecting more for nothing in return. RPA is a great company to fly for, but be careful if you say that you’re automatically tagged as a “company pilot”.... If you don’t like it, remember YOU choose to stay here!

stabapch 05-04-2019 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2814003)
Read above post... slowly it will make more sense. Endeavor is also hardly in a Comair position. That whole autonomy thing played it pretty big role.

If you’re one to agree that YX is owned by their partners then let’s start here. Republic has invested and is currently very successful in a flight training school (LIFT) that ensures graduates get 5 years min at YX by contract. This means a constant flow of pilots to make it simple for ya. BRAND NEW facility with BRAND NEW advanced aircraft, 40 something to be exact. Oh that must mean that the “partners” aka majors must have invested in this by default since they “own” YX right? Hmmmm... Now I’m not a business major, economist or whatever but that tells me YX has somewhat of a constant future providing feeds to their partners. BB and the executive team have been around and turned around a failing company since year 2000 and they’ve been through it ALL! The result to this day? A growing, NOT shrinking airline. I’m not sure if you’re an EDV guy but in the words of my CEO, “god bless ya” because YX and OO are taking on more DL flying while EDV is losing it.......RED FLAG!!! Hopefully you have apps in somewhere else other than DL since you ain’t worthy of a flow despite being “100 percent owned” by DL. There’s no negative times in sight for YX, again the executive team has been around for almost 20 years and we are still continuing to fill classes a year plus out...there hasn’t been a “oh **** stop hiring people because things ain’t looking to good” yet, despite some select regionals that have this issue now...compass liquidation.... oops.

Meow1215 05-05-2019 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2814452)
I’m not all “sunshine and rainbows” but I have no gripes about Republic. Pilots in general just complain about EVERYTHING no matter how many digits are on the paycheck. I had a DPE years ago who was a United FO *****ing about his future trip to somewhere in Asia was a ****hole....he worked one trip a month.... It ain’t the company it’s your OWN perspective on life, blame YOURSELF! Unions are at fault for this because they make you believe you always deserve more for giving NOTHING more to your employer. Reality check for those that never worked outside of an aviation career...you have to put in to get out! Welcome to life outside of socialism! Millennials have this problem...expecting more for nothing in return. RPA is a great company to fly for, but be careful if you say that you’re automatically tagged as a “company pilot”.... If you don’t like it, remember YOU choose to stay here!

It’s kinda weird watching you contradict yourself.

Meow1215 05-05-2019 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2814459)
If you’re one to agree that YX is owned by their partners then let’s start here. Republic has invested and is currently very successful in a flight training school (LIFT) that ensures graduates get 5 years min at YX by contract. This means a constant flow of pilots to make it simple for ya. BRAND NEW facility with BRAND NEW advanced aircraft, 40 something to be exact. Oh that must mean that the “partners” aka majors must have invested in this by default since they “own” YX right? Hmmmm... Now I’m not a business major, economist or whatever but that tells me YX has somewhat of a constant future providing feeds to their partners. BB and the executive team have been around and turned around a failing company since year 2000 and they’ve been through it ALL! The result to this day? A growing, NOT shrinking airline. I’m not sure if you’re an EDV guy but in the words of my CEO, “god bless ya” because YX and OO are taking on more DL flying while EDV is losing it.......RED FLAG!!! Hopefully you have apps in somewhere else other than DL since you ain’t worthy of a flow despite being “100 percent owned” by DL. There’s no negative times in sight for YX, again the executive team has been around for almost 20 years and we are still continuing to fill classes a year plus out...there hasn’t been a “oh **** stop hiring people because things ain’t looking to good” yet, despite some select regionals that have this issue now...compass liquidation.... oops.

20 years? When was that bankruptcy again? You got pretty good batch of koolaid huh? Guessing you are either just on property or in the last 18 months.
And EDV shrinking, that’s funny. I will admit though, I have seen more OO 175s in LGA than YX ones lately. Maybe it’s just coincidence.
And to help you out, yeah I’m a 9E guy. No, apps are not out. No intent too either, I had my chance for NW back in 01. Unfortunately right place at the wrong time.

Random Task 05-05-2019 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2814565)
You got pretty good batch of koolaid huh? Guessing you are either just on property or in the last 18 months.

I dont even think stabapach is finished with training yet

stabapch 05-05-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 2814712)
I dont even think stabapach is finished with training yet

Ok. I’ll be on year 2 pay next month with an upgrade coming up, but whatever makes ya sleep better at night

ninerdriver 05-05-2019 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2814560)
It’s kinda weird watching you contradict yourself.

I make fun of OO pilots all of the time, and it's kinda fun, because they take it in stride, and I do the same back. Besides, it's not their fault that they're all so ugly.

As soon as someone says anything about YX, though, it's all "you suck your airline sucks I know you are but what am I".

Meow1215 05-05-2019 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2814918)
I make fun of OO pilots all of the time, and it's kinda fun, because they take it in stride, and I do the same back. Besides, it's not their fault that they're all so ugly.

As soon as someone says anything about YX, though, it's all "you suck your airline sucks I know you are but what am I".

This is true, and your just paying it forward to OO. OO has you, 9E has mpet, and a forum without mpet would be a dull one at best.

Viking6 05-06-2019 03:49 AM

I’ve worked at 2 other regionals, and charter. Yes at this point in time Republic is better then those places. Airlines have unions, because most airline managers put profits before their people. Republic is one of these, and in recent memory was probably one of the worst. The only reason “culture change” happened, was because we couldn’t fill our classes. Management did not have an epiphany about the way they were treating their employees, they simply made a business decision. LIFT was also a business decision, which benefits the company. They (upper management) love the idea of LIFT, because it reduces the impact of the pilot shortage, which reduces the leverage of the pilot group (union).

Republic will survive, because they are profitable, and who doesn’t love money. We pick up excess flying monthly, because other carriers can’t cover their flying. I expect Republic will have an IPO within 12-18 months. After that my concern would be AA moving flying to the WOs. AA is currently out largest FFD partner.

Tpinks 05-06-2019 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Viking6 (Post 2815071)
I’ve worked at 2 other regionals, and charter. Yes at this point in time Republic is better then those places. Airlines have unions, because most airline managers put profits before their people. Republic is one of these, and in recent memory was probably one of the worst. The only reason “culture change” happened, was because we couldn’t fill our classes. Management did not have an epiphany about the way they were treating their employees, they simply made a business decision. LIFT was also a business decision, which benefits the company. They (upper management) love the idea of LIFT, because it reduces the impact of the pilot shortage, which reduces the leverage of the pilot group (union).

Republic will survive, because they are profitable, and who doesn’t love money. We pick up excess flying monthly, because other carriers can’t cover their flying. I expect Republic will have an IPO within 12-18 months. After that my concern would be AA moving flying to the WOs. AA is currently out largest FFD partner.

And with what aircraft would any WO fly our flying with? AA would have to order new aircraft and possibly certify Envoy as EOW. Why would they spend extra money to do so when they already have a reliable source for the flying?

Meow1215 05-06-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2815137)
And with what aircraft would any WO fly our flying with? AA would have to order new aircraft and possibly certify Envoy as EOW. Why would they spend extra money to do so when they already have a reliable source for the flying?

It’s called a whipsaw.
Why do the major carriers all of a sudden decide to spend large quantities of money on their desired projects?

dera 05-06-2019 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2815137)
And with what aircraft would any WO fly our flying with? AA would have to order new aircraft and possibly certify Envoy as EOW. Why would they spend extra money to do so when they already have a reliable source for the flying?

AA has options for a bunch of 175's, but I don't think those would be used to take flying from Republic. I believe Envoy will take flying from Skywest and Mesa out of DFW and let Republic do it's thing. Much easier than fitting the planes with rafts for EOW.

Tpinks 05-07-2019 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2815264)
AA has options for a bunch of 175's, but I don't think those would be used to take flying from Republic. I believe Envoy will take flying from Skywest and Mesa out of DFW and let Republic do it's thing. Much easier than fitting the planes with rafts for EOW.

We operate over 80 175's for AA. It would take a multi billion dollar order for them to replace our flying in house with new planes. There also are no rafts on the EOW planes. EOW is a lot more than just fitting planes with survival equipment though.


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2815179)
It’s called a whipsaw.
Why do the major carriers all of a sudden decide to spend large quantities of money on their desired projects?

You can't whipsaw if you reduce your number of providers. Our AA flying is in no danger, as much as Envoy would like to think otherwise. Hell we have been covering a bunch of flying for PSA in CLT for the last 2-3 months now as well.

dera 05-07-2019 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2815786)
We operate over 80 175's for AA. It would take a multi billion dollar order for them to replace our flying in house with new planes. There also are no rafts on the EOW planes. EOW is a lot more than just fitting planes with survival equipment though.


Yeah, like I said, I don't see that happening. There are easier and worse-performing airlines to replace.

Meow1215 05-07-2019 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 2815786)
Our AA flying is in no danger, as much as Envoy would like to think otherwise. Hell we have been covering a bunch of flying for PSA in CLT for the last 2-3 months now as well.

It’s a regional - it’s always in danger.
You whipsaw Envoy, sure enough. Doesn’t mean Envoy can’t whipsaw YX.


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