rld1k

Sounds possible. Maybe by then Warren Buffet will reinvest.

firefighterplt

This is why I’m not going to sit in a holding pattern, waiting for ‘hiring to start back up.’

There’s a big difference between hiring starting, and hiring starting. What I mean by that is this: once it resumes, is a commercial with 1500hrs still going to be able to land an interview? Or is it going to be all guys with thousands of hours of 121 time? I think it would be naive at best to assume that we’ll be back to street hiring guys with wet-ink ATPs in short order. The difference between hiring 121 guys and hiring 1500hr CFIs could be many years—and unless you’re in your early-mid 20s living in mom’s basement, it’s one hell of a gamble to play the waiting game. And even then—where will wages be?

Then you’ll get a list number just in time for the next recession/epidemic/market crash.

I apologize for the negativity. I’m typically a very optimistic guy, but man this whole thing is beating me down lately.

flybub

For those of us without a seniority number there's no reason to be optimistic. So your negativity is justified

Happyflyer

Vaccine +2 years for economy spending to recover and we will be back at 2019 levels.

Baby boomers aren't about to stay at home for the rest of their life.
They are the richest and largest generation when they're fully retired traveling demand will skyrocket.

Tring

I hope people get realistic and start getting used to the idea that there may never be an effective vaccine.


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OrthoPilot189

Everyone is talking about a immediate cure when the vaccine comes out. At the moment there is good information coming out that a vaccine for this virus is close to coming to market, however there is also a chance that a vaccine may never come to market.

If you look at the other Coronavirus that we have lived through over the last decade or two, both SARs ad MERs. These two Coronaviruses never received a vaccine for them. The common cold that everyone gets from time to time is also a Coronavirus. It is hard to make a vaccine for a virus. Also even if they make a vaccine we do not know how effective it will be toward Covid-19. Already there has been studies that Covid-19 has over 60 different mutations. The actual Covid-19 that the United States was different than the original Covid-19 that started this whole Pandemic in China. Mutations happen very common with these types of viruses.

I am not comparing the Covid-19 to the yearly Influenza that also kills a lot of people yearly. We know that these are two different types of viruses. However, if you take the early flu we have a vaccine for it that usually comes out around September and October. Because the flu mutates a lot from year to year the makers of the Influenza vaccine have to guess what strains of the flu will be the strongest for that year. Sometimes they get it right and we have a very effective vaccine for that year and sometimes they don't get it right and we have an ineffective vaccine and then have a lot of the population who get sick and possible die from the flu.

So really, what I am trying to say is that even though a vaccine will be good if we can get one that works and is effective on Covid-19 we still need to have other protocols in place. I think the major protocol at the moment is to continue wearing masks practice social distancing when we can but don't let it shut down the entire country. There are many ways we as a population can protect one another. We just have to put our differences aside and come together to put an end to the spread of this virus.

I think that is enough of me preaching from the soap box. Lets go back to our normal programming and hope for blue skies when September comes. I just want to get back on campus so I can return to training. LOL

LoitaHills

And that, is the base line. In our current political environment, a very, very difficult option. Great post.

yakfisher

With airlines making a comeback faster than we thought has anyone heard of potential class dates coming back?

BravoTango

We are at less than 15pct of pre pandemic passenger counts in the US. A second wave of covid is possible.

The only question is how big the furloughs will be in October... and how long to recall. After that comes new hiring....


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LoneStar32

There is no talk of training starting back up. Everybody at this point is just bracing for possible furloughs/downgrades. That will be your first clue. If they do happen, new hire training won't start back up until late 2021. If they don't, you may get a new hire class late this year.