Envoy to Republic...
08-09-2019, 01:16 PM
#1
On Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 12
Envoy to Republic...
Hey All,
Need some input here. I have two offers both from Envoy and Republic, I would most likely get stuck on the 145 in LGA for Envoy, rather than being on the 175 with RPA. Location does not matter for and willing to relocate. Has anyone gone from Envoy to Republic can give me some info about what they think between the companies. Envoy has "the flow" but I'm not entirely sure i'm sold. I've heard republic has great work rules. I'm just looking for differences, tips, advice, or anything between the two to help me formulate a decision.
Need some input here. I have two offers both from Envoy and Republic, I would most likely get stuck on the 145 in LGA for Envoy, rather than being on the 175 with RPA. Location does not matter for and willing to relocate. Has anyone gone from Envoy to Republic can give me some info about what they think between the companies. Envoy has "the flow" but I'm not entirely sure i'm sold. I've heard republic has great work rules. I'm just looking for differences, tips, advice, or anything between the two to help me formulate a decision.
08-09-2019, 02:34 PM
#2
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Position: Non-standard Phraseology Curator
Posts: 296
I wouldn't go to an airline just for the shiny jet, but we do have innumerous QOL advantages to Envoy. No junior manning, light years better reserve rules, a company that doesn't loathe it's pilots, and we're growing fast. I don't get the Envoy attraction other than the flow. No one seems to be happy over there. Seems more like a prison sentence to get to a legacy with its own set of big issues.
08-09-2019, 03:00 PM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 671
You’d be happier at Republic. QOL is way better. Envoy is stuck with what it has contract wise because people go there and become a slave to the flow. Republic had to compete with flow somehow, so we have a much better contract and stability.
08-09-2019, 05:04 PM
#4
On Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 12
what are your guys thoughts on the flow? If I go RPA, am I really taking a hit/missing out on the flow? My thing is are we really going to need a flow? And i'm sure there are some major downsides to the whole "flow" thing.
08-09-2019, 05:41 PM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 273
Originally Posted by REF10SINK8
what are your guys thoughts on the flow? If I go RPA, am I really taking a hit/missing out on the flow? My thing is are we really going to need a flow? And i'm sure there are some major downsides to the whole "flow" thing.
Last edited by BeechPilot33; 08-09-2019 at 05:53 PM.
08-09-2019, 11:08 PM
#6
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Captain for Skyhawks
Posts: 482
Originally Posted by REF10SINK8
what are your guys thoughts on the flow? If I go RPA, am I really taking a hit/missing out on the flow? My thing is are we really going to need a flow? And i'm sure there are some major downsides to the whole "flow" thing.
Here’s a photo from our private Facebook group about2-3 people who actually left American eagle/ envoy and they are happy.
My devils advocate with flow is we will need more pilots due to retirements then the flow can provide so everyone will be hired.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
08-10-2019, 08:32 AM
#7
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 13
Originally Posted by REF10SINK8
Hey All,
Need some input here. I have two offers both from Envoy and Republic, I would most likely get stuck on the 145 in LGA for Envoy, rather than being on the 175 with RPA. Location does not matter for and willing to relocate. Has anyone gone from Envoy to Republic can give me some info about what they think between the companies. Envoy has "the flow" but I'm not entirely sure i'm sold. I've heard republic has great work rules. I'm just looking for differences, tips, advice, or anything between the two to help me formulate a decision.
Need some input here. I have two offers both from Envoy and Republic, I would most likely get stuck on the 145 in LGA for Envoy, rather than being on the 175 with RPA. Location does not matter for and willing to relocate. Has anyone gone from Envoy to Republic can give me some info about what they think between the companies. Envoy has "the flow" but I'm not entirely sure i'm sold. I've heard republic has great work rules. I'm just looking for differences, tips, advice, or anything between the two to help me formulate a decision.
If 6 years is realistic, my attitude was, too much can happen in that time to use it as one of my considerations for choosing one company over another. I've heard the "insurance policy" argument, but if the economy goes south, flow will be meaningless.
08-10-2019, 09:14 AM
#8
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 273
Originally Posted by 52Cent
It would be interesting to know how many pilots at PSA and Envoy are doing a "street app," interviewing and moving on prior to flow, compared to number that are waiting for and using the flow. I was told by friends at PSA and the recruiting team that flow is currently 6 years at PSA. I don't recall the number I was told by the Envoy team, but it was significantly shorter. That lead me to believe they were quoting "results may vary" numbers and therefore, a little optimistic.
If 6 years is realistic, my attitude was, too much can happen in that time to use it as one of my considerations for choosing one company over another. I've heard the "insurance policy" argument, but if the economy goes south, flow will be meaningless.
If 6 years is realistic, my attitude was, too much can happen in that time to use it as one of my considerations for choosing one company over another. I've heard the "insurance policy" argument, but if the economy goes south, flow will be meaningless.
08-10-2019, 09:26 AM
#9
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 13
Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
AA hiring already posted stats for 2018-2019 the all civ street hires is very low 5% or so hence the comment if AA is your number one choice the flow is most likely your best bet.
08-10-2019, 11:26 AM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,427
Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
AA hiring already posted stats for 2018-2019 the all civ street hires is very low 5% or so hence the comment if AA is your number one choice the flow is most likely your best bet.
But yet isn’t impossible......
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Frisky Pilot
Regional
0
06-23-2005 02:50 PM
