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OffAtTango 09-07-2019 04:22 PM

Washington Dulles
 
It looks like we have picked up quite a bit of Dulles flying come October. Looking at the flight schedules, we will be flying to the following airports from:
SRQ, IND, BTV, PIT, EWR, SDF, CMH, YHZ, ATL, GSO, HSV, YUL, MCI, DTW.

Most of these airports will be daily departures, while a few of them are certain days of the week. It appears that all of these routes are currently flown by Mesa on the CRJ 700 & E175. It will be interesting to see what United does down the road as it appears they have began to shift their regional flying around.

KCaviator 09-07-2019 05:22 PM

Yup, posted the same thing, although in the DL growth thread. The IAD flying even doubles in November, so it definitely appears as if UA is shuffling regionals. Maybe Mesa’s contract didn’t get renewed? Who knows.

Longhornmaniac8 09-07-2019 05:28 PM

Based on block hours, our UA flying grew about 3.3% month-to-month between September and October. It's not a lot, but it's also not nothing.

captive apple 09-07-2019 05:53 PM

Did block hours shrink at any hub?

170driver 09-07-2019 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 (Post 2883162)
Based on block hours, our UA flying grew about 3.3% month-to-month between September and October. It's not a lot, but it's also not nothing.



While it’s not a lot, it is a lot considering this is when block hours historically decrease


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chrisreedrules 09-08-2019 05:12 AM

So is this bad news for Mesa or...

20sx 09-08-2019 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2883284)
So is this bad news for Mesa or...

Not at this point. We haven’t reduced our flying, just got it shifted.

lbell 09-08-2019 05:33 AM

Does this have anything to do with them continuing to ground the 737 Max? (Therefore requiring a system wide shuffle of flights to various regionals)

captive apple 09-08-2019 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 2883191)
While it’s not a lot, it is a lot considering this is when block hours historically decrease

October typically has higher block hours.

170driver 09-08-2019 05:34 AM

Washington Dulles
 

Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2883293)
October typically has higher block hours.



Really? I thought it decreased until November. Then an uptick. OCT 2018 56940 block hours OCT 2019 60441 block hours.


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captive apple 09-08-2019 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 2883294)
Really? I thought it decreased until November. Then an uptick. OCT 2018 56940 block hours OCT 2019 60441 block hours.

While it is airline specific in general October for US airlines show more block hours than September and November.
I’m not saying you aren’t flying (and covering) more hours than you were planning I’m simply speaking in generalities.

KCaviator 09-08-2019 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by 20sx (Post 2883287)
Not at this point. We haven’t reduced our flying, just got it shifted.

Where did your flying shift to?

Jungle Jim 09-08-2019 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2883372)
Where did your flying shift to?

Hasn't United not signed a new contract with Mesa yet? Could this be the first ripples from the fallout of that?

Jungedrache 09-08-2019 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2883372)
Where did your flying shift to?

As a matter of fact, we are starting to operate out of IAH in the 700 starting October, so that explains it....

Maybe United is consolidating regionals by region? Kind of what Delta is already doing?

KCaviator 09-08-2019 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jungedrache (Post 2883394)
As a matter of fact, we are starting to operate out of IAH in the 700 starting October, so that explains it....

Maybe United is consolidating regionals by region? Kind of what Delta is already doing?

Seems like just the opposite with us entering another hub.

itsmytime 09-09-2019 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2883490)
Seems like just the opposite with us entering another hub.

Exactly. United has no plan whatsoever for its regionals, other than status quo.

170driver 09-09-2019 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2883830)
Exactly. United has no plan whatsoever for its regionals, other than status quo.



Whipsaw is their only plan. It’s going to end up hurting them. Delta is killing it and they don’t have to whipsaw into oblivion.


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chrisreedrules 09-09-2019 08:55 AM

Delta has shrunk the numbers of Connection regionals significantly. American is still in the process of doing that and consolidating flying to its wholly-owned regionals. United is the unknown at this point. I’m sure much of it will hinge on their discussions with the pilots over scope.

170driver 09-09-2019 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2883872)
Delta has shrunk the numbers of Connection regionals significantly. American is still in the process of doing that and consolidating flying to its wholly-owned regionals. United is the unknown at this point. I’m sure much of it will hinge on their discussions with the pilots over scope.



I don’t see American going completely to WO regionals. I think Republic will stick around since AA has a stake in them. Oh and the fact that envoy could never staff the airplanes we have.


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captive apple 09-09-2019 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2883872)
Delta has shrunk the numbers of Connection regionals significantly. American is still in the process of doing that and consolidating flying to its wholly-owned regionals. United is the unknown at this point. I’m sure much of it will hinge on their discussions with the pilots over scope.

Nobody believes that.

chrisreedrules 09-10-2019 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2883904)
Nobody believes that.

Why not? It’s been happening for several years now. Eagle will most likely end up being Envoy, PSA, Piedmont, Republic, and SkyWest when it’s all said and done.

Longhornmaniac8 09-11-2019 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2885038)
Why not? It’s been happening for several years now. Eagle will most likely end up being Envoy, PSA, Piedmont, Republic, and SkyWest when it’s all said and done.

That's a very different statement to:


American is still in the process of doing that and consolidating flying to its wholly-owned regionals.
I think most everyone would agree Mesa and Compass won't be a part of AA's plans going forward. But that's really what you've said. This isn't some enormous shift of the status quo. This is basically MQ, OH, and OO taking over the YV DFW flying, and some combination of OO and MQ taking over the CP and YV LAX/PHX flying.

YX and OO will still be a substantial part of American's regional lift going forward. It's virtually impossible to see any other possibility at this point.

chrisreedrules 09-11-2019 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8 (Post 2885353)
That's a very different statement to:



I think most everyone would agree Mesa and Compass won't be a part of AA's plans going forward. But that's really what you've said. This isn't some enormous shift of the status quo. This is basically MQ, OH, and OO taking over the YV DFW flying, and some combination of OO and MQ taking over the CP and YV LAX/PHX flying.

YX and OO will still be a substantial part of American's regional lift going forward. It's virtually impossible to see any other possibility at this point.

I agree with that and I’ve held that belief (and posted it here) for a long time.

Longhornmaniac8 09-11-2019 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2885641)
I agree with that and I’ve held that belief (and posted it here) for a long time.

Fair enough! We're seeing the same things.


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