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Old 09-17-2019, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DOGIII View Post
"The relationship does only work one way" - your words. It takes a special kind of entitlement to reach this milestone, I have to say. It doesn't matter what passengers we fly, the cabin priority remains intact. You all keep yelling about how you contribute to the AA bottom line and as a result of that relationship you deserve priority. I will be happy to advocate for that cause if we get the same priority on all of your company metal, some of your own co-workers agree with that exact Jumpseat reciprocity.

Had you brought it that way to the group I would have no issue writing my reps on your behalf. I think it was a miscalculation the way it was done, but that is for all of you to decide.
Nice job completely removing my sentence from it's context, and deleting the part that you didn't like hearing because it didn't suit your narrative. We want a fair agreement. The unfairness has been swaying in the favor of AAG and it's pilots for years. Was it a strong reaction from our union? Sure, I won't debate that. Were there other avenues? Yeah, maybe. But we support our union, because at RPA we support each other as a pilot group as a whole. We're tired of being bumped by an F9, B6, WN whoever guy on AA flights and getting left behind, after just moving a bunch of AA passengers, ontime or early. Working hard, when your operation drops the ball, only to be ****ed on by your pilots when we try to get home. Despite what AAG pilots keep acting like, we aren't asking to have priority over them, we're simply asking for priority over OAL. AAG pilots already get this on AA flights. There isn't something that YX needs to change, the only change needs to come from AAG. It's already in your favor.
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotnicco View Post
Nice job completely removing my sentence from it's context, and deleting the part that you didn't like hearing because it didn't suit your narrative. We want a fair agreement. The unfairness has been swaying in the favor of AAG and it's pilots for years. Was it a strong reaction from our union? Sure, I won't debate that. Were there other avenues? Yeah, maybe. But we support our union, because at RPA we support each other as a pilot group as a whole. We're tired of being bumped by an F9, B6, WN whoever guy on AA flights and getting left behind, after just moving a bunch of AA passengers, ontime or early. Working hard, when your operation drops the ball, only to be ****ed on by your pilots when we try to get home. Despite what AAG pilots keep acting like, we aren't asking to have priority over them, we're simply asking for priority over OAL. AAG pilots already get this on AA flights. There isn't something that YX needs to change, the only change needs to come from AAG. It's already in your favor.

Got it. So you want priority over OAL on our Jumpseats, but won't extend that same reciprocal courtesy. Yeah... That's gonna be a big fat NO from most of this group.
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:11 AM
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Got it. So you want priority over OAL on our Jumpseats, but won't extend that same reciprocal courtesy. Yeah... That's gonna be a big fat NO from most of this group.
You ALREADY have that on our JS. If it's you or an F9, guess what, it's your JS!
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Originally Posted by pilotnicco View Post
You ALREADY have that on our JS. If it's you or an F9, guess what, it's your JS!


Not on all of them.
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Originally Posted by pilotnicco View Post
What? Who said that? It's only our JS if it's our metal. Everyone here knows that...

According to your logic, you're saying that because we should have priority over OAL on AA flights, that you should have priority over everyone else on all YX flights?
Correct. If every YX pilot (even those flying primarily for UAL and DAL) gets junpseat priority over OAL on AAG metal, then AAG pilots should expect to get jumpseat priority over OAL on all YX metal. That’s reciprocal, right?

I’m not talking about the cabin. Only the JS. It has been clearly stated that YX owns it’s jumpseats regardless of who is painted on the side of the aircraft. You get priority on AAG metal, then AAG folks get priority on your metal...not just on flights with American Eagle painted on the side.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:37 PM
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I disagree with other posters. This was not an "overreaction" from RPA's union. Several other avenues were pursued over the past couple years which were met with disinterest. It was those results that led to this. Who do people think they are kidding, AA was never going to do anything unless this step was taken.
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Don’t have a dog in this fight with either airline (former RAH), but some of you AA guys sound like absolute clowns. Jumpseat priority on all metal? Give me a break. Republic should call your bluff and have you try to make it happen. Ultimately DL and UA would have to agree and that ain’t happening.

Bottom line is it doesn’t affect you if RAH guys/gals that operate AA flights have some kind of respectable JS priority. What it is now is a joke. You’re acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and living up to your reputation.


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Originally Posted by sMFer View Post
Don’t have a dog in this fight with either airline (former RAH), but some of you AA guys sound like absolute clowns. Jumpseat priority on all metal? Give me a break. Republic should call your bluff and have you try to make it happen. Ultimately DL and UA would have to agree and that ain’t happening.

Bottom line is it doesn’t affect you if RAH guys/gals that operate AA flights have some kind of respectable JS priority. What it is now is a joke. You’re acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and living up to your reputation.


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Old 09-17-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sMFer View Post
Don’t have a dog in this fight with either airline (former RAH), but some of you AA guys sound like absolute clowns. Jumpseat priority on all metal? Give me a break. Republic should call your bluff and have you try to make it happen. Ultimately DL and UA would have to agree and that ain’t happening.

Bottom line is it doesn’t affect you if RAH guys/gals that operate AA flights have some kind of respectable JS priority. What it is now is a joke. You’re acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and living up to your reputation.


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What are you taking about? Why wouldn't AA get priority over OAL on all Republic aircraft same as they want on ours. Some Republic pilots have clearly stated that they think that should happen. Besides, AA going above OAL on Delta and United Republic aircraft wouldn't affect them either, since they go first there just as we do here, so why should they care?
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Originally Posted by DOGIII View Post
What are you taking about? Why wouldn't AA get priority over OAL on all Republic aircraft same as they want on ours. Some Republic pilots have clearly stated that they think that should happen. Besides, AA going above OAL on Delta and United Republic aircraft wouldn't affect them either, since they go first there just as we so here, so why should they care?


You could go above OAL, but below the codeshare mainline pilot partner (DL or UA). Doesn’t really affect anyone but OAL guys.


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