Losing LGA to Envoy
 

Rumor has it that republic is losing Americans airlines routes from LGA to envoy is that true ? Apparently envoy is stackijng up the 175s at LGA starting January

Did you read this rumor on a yoke clip or scratched into a stall door in the terminal B crew room bathroom?

Let me guess, an Envoy jumpseater which is just as reliable then the two sources listed above.

Nah a family member who works in corporate for envoy told me.

I doubt it.


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We have like 3 daily turns on the 175 in/out of LGA now. Hardly a takeover.

is the rumor more flying through, or a 175 base there?

First it was Envoy taking Miami flying, now it's LGA. What's the next rumor, Philly?

If I had a dollar for everyone that has an uncle that works in corporate on this forum...

Come on you rookies. Everyone knows that the only reliable sources of intel are flight attendants that heard it from super senior check airman!! It’s on the internet, therefore it has to be true!!

Wow, saw another post about losing United flying to other regionals and now American flying being given to Envoy in LGA and MIA (obviously rumors and speculation at this point from Uncles (lol) but still). No guaranteed interviews, flows or any real connection to a larger carrier. Things are starting to look a little dicey at republic

Sure they are. Quality first post

Probably an Envoy pilot:D

Come to Envoy! We have an 8 year indentured servitude to AA! The greatest QOL and industry trailing pay! Then, after you serve your prison sentence, you get to go to the legacy that’s trying it’s best to be an LCC!

Let them have it

Bottom line is Republic (or any regional for that matter) can’t protect the flying they do for their partners. Sure, rpa has contracts but anything can change with the swipe of a pen.

If American decides they want envoy 175s in LGA it’ll happen. I doubt it’ll happen any time soon but that’s just the way the industry is moving.

Envoy has the worst pilot group amongst all the regionals. Like a group of salivating pit bulls waiting to take everyone’s flying, because you know, it was ALL of their flying at one time.

The original American Eagle is gone brothers, give it up.

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

Daily LGA AA departures:

Jan 2020: 56
Jan 2019: 43
Jan 2018: 44
Jan 2017: 43

***Source: Market Planning page on intranet, as usual.

Looks to me like quite the OPPOSITE of losing flying.

No. No. Please no.

It would force management to focus on something other than the northeast. And the whole “we’re in the northeast because we’re the best at it and that’s where our partners want us” is complete BS. It’s because it’s CHEAP. Management backed themselves in to a corner by opening massive maintenance hubs all within a couple hundred miles of each other. That’s why we can’t consistently expand west, it’s a nightmare logistically and RPA is too cheap to open a larger maintenance hub west of the Mississippi. Management runs this freaking multi-billion dollar airline like a mom and pop show.

You can have NY for all I care.


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Ya literally no one here care nor wants LGA so you can keep that one since I guess you all are the best at east coast flying or whatever


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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but what I understand of CPAs, they don’t work that way (at will/swipe of a pen) unless there is specific language not being fulfilled, mostly having to do with operational issues—which operationally, YX is doing very well. Granted, Code Share partners can displace airframes/flying between city pairs, but the “ink” is indelible on the specifics in the CPA through the duration of the CPA. Same for UA.

LH

No one else wants to do it.

Bingo. $$$$

Thanks, I'll take all the NE flying that you don't want. Just don't cry into your bowl of cereal every time you lose flying because you don't want to be in the lucrative NE market.