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mrfishy 04-16-2020 08:34 AM

Pay while in Training
 
I typed this up before all of the beer flu madness, thought it would be helpful for new hires and pilots looking at coming to Republic. Unfortunately, I imagine all of the bonuses are not going to be a thing for quite some time, and this guide probably won't be super helpful since they aren't hiring anyone right now. I decided to post it rather than delete it as a reference in the future for anyone looking at coming to Republic.


I’ve seen a lot of posts all over the forum asking about training pay and expected per month pay. I decided to share some real numbers of what you can expect for take-home pay every two weeks throughout the different stages of training. Additionally, I touch on what pay is put in what paychecks since they pay out different things on different checks.


Everyone’s paycheck is going to be slightly different based on the benefits chosen, allowances, and state of residence. I personally claimed 2 allowances and live in a state that has income tax. The benefits I have are as follows in per paycheck values


Medical: $64


AA and UA travel benefits with the paid over a year option: $5


401k at 3%: $53


Additionally, I am going to round some numbers and change the values slightly for simplicity and privacy reasons.


Initial Training Pay


You are paid $60/day for the first 30 days (even on days off you are paid). Additionally, you receive $1500 of the $17500 total bonus. That $1500 should be paid on the first paycheck. Note: Bonuses are taxed at a higher percentage.


1st Paycheck: $1600


If you enroll in two or more travel benefit programs, the company gives you $100 towards that enrollment. This posted on my second paycheck.


2nd Paycheck: $950


Minimum Guarantee


After the first two paychecks, you are now switched to the minimum monthly guarantee plus per diem. Minimum guarantee is 75 hours per month at $46.36. That is paid out at 37.5 hours every two weeks. Per diem is paid out once per month in the mid-month paycheck. Per diem is $2.15/hr. And that per diem counts for every hour you are scheduled to be somewhere for training, NOT just time you spend at the training center. So if you have 2 days of training, that is 48 hours of per diem. Per Diem is NOT TAXED. Additionally, when on a trip, you are paid per diem for all time spent away from base.


Your end of month paycheck is going to be the same every month, 37.5 hours at your hourly rate.



3rd Paycheck: $1250


Depending on when you start, per diem may or may not be in the 4th paycheck. Mine was. Additionally, on the mid-month paycheck they add on all the other “extras”. We received 4 hours over guarantee for this paycheck, and some R-Goals Bonus (which isn't being distributed anymore due to corona). I don’t know if the 4 hours over guarantee is typical or if our schedule just worked out that way.


4th Paycheck: $2100


5th Paycheck: $1250


6th Paycheck: $5800


This paycheck includes the completion of IOE $5k bonus and per diem.


After this paychecks are basically the same every month.



Minimum Monthly Guarantee Pay After taxes/deductions: $2500


Plan to live on $2500/mo. The majority of pilots make more than the minimum, but with the decreased flying due to the coronavirus, I would be extremely hesitant to plan for more than guarantee. (edit: we are currently limited to 82 hours of credit, so at this time do not plan for more than 82 hours a month. you can get around that with trip trades but I have found that to be pretty difficult with the reduced flying.)


PLEASE NOTE:


One thing that isn’t really advertised is that Republic sends you a 1099-MISC for your ATPCTP Training. They mention this in their initial emails, but I severely underestimated the amount of taxes I would be liable for. Since you weren’t an employee during ATPCTP they say this is “Non-employee compensation”. The 1099 is approximately $4500. This worked out to about $1200 in taxes I owed. So might as well subtract $1200 from that first paycheck to set aside for taxes.


TLDR

1st: $1600

2nd: $950

3rd: $1250

4th: $2100

5th: $1250

6th: $5800

Misc: -$1200 ATPCTP taxes


One more thing I didn't account for was Union Dues. I was never charged union dues during training, and they just popped up for the first time on the paycheck yesterday. I'm unsure if they are deducted per paycheck or monthly, but this paycheck had $70 in union deductions.

LoneStar32 04-16-2020 09:56 AM

Great post with some good info. You are right though, bonuses are gone and won't be coming back for years most likely. Heck, I just hope we are hiring at all by this time next year.

moonraker9 04-16-2020 10:18 AM

Thanks for taking the time to write that up, pretty useful.

deftone 04-16-2020 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3033524)
Great post with some good info. You are right though, bonuses are gone and won't be coming back for years most likely. Heck, I just hope we are hiring at all by this time next year.

Didnt those who got sent home from training get notified this week that they won’t return prior to Jan 2021? Seems unlikely to be much hiring.

Jungle Jim 04-16-2020 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by deftone (Post 3033775)
Didnt those who got sent home from training get notified this week that they won’t return prior to Jan 2021? Seems unlikely to be much hiring.

They'll have to recall anyone furloughed if it comes to that first. Then will be the backlog in training that will create getting furloughed pilots current. It will be a lot longer than that, and I think anything other than that is a delusion right now.

Rcordeiro122592 04-16-2020 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by deftone (Post 3033775)
Didnt those who got sent home from training get notified this week that they won’t return prior to Jan 2021? Seems unlikely to be much hiring.

I was one who got that call today. Won’t resume training until Jan 2021 the earliest. I was in the 3/3 class.

deftone 04-16-2020 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Rcordeiro122592 (Post 3033796)
I was one who got that call today. Won’t resume training until Jan 2021 the earliest. I was in the 3/3 class.

That sucks man, hope this all blows over quickly and they get you guys back in class soon.

Tpinks 04-19-2020 10:46 PM

Two corrections needed in this thread.

Bonuses ARE NOT taxed at a higher rate, they are taxed at the same rate at which your normal income is. Whatever bracket you fall into is what it’s taxed at, though they could possibly bump you into the next bracket. For this reason, bonuses are WITHHELD at a higher rate. So while you lose money upfront with the bonus when they are initially paid, you gain a lot of it back come tax season the following year.

Per Diem IS taxed while on day trips.

mrfishy 04-20-2020 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 3036333)
Two corrections needed in this thread.

Bonuses ARE NOT taxed at a higher rate, they are taxed at the same rate at which your normal income is. Whatever bracket you fall into is what it’s taxed at, though they could possibly bump you into the next bracket. For this reason, bonuses are WITHHELD at a higher rate. So while you lose money upfront with the bonus when they are initially paid, you gain a lot of it back come tax season the following year.

Per Diem IS taxed while on day trips.

Thanks for the corrections, I would love to update the op but apparently this website doesn't allow you to edit posts (wtf??)

Do you have a source for per diem being taxed on day trips? I haven't had that happen yet and a quick google hasn't revealed the answer

Geardownflaps30 04-20-2020 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by mrfishy (Post 3036363)
Thanks for the corrections, I would love to update the op but apparently this website doesn't allow you to edit posts (wtf??)

Do you have a source for per diem being taxed on day trips? I haven't had that happen yet and a quick google hasn't revealed the answer

Per diem for day trips is taxed as income. It’s one of the down sides of living in base and doing day trips. Personally it costs me about $2000 in income annually.

The reason it is taxed is precisely because you’re not gone overnight. The government considers per diem as money to cover expenses while on the road (food, room, etc). Since you’re on a day trip the government assumes (just like someone working any 9-5 job) that you have none of these “out-of-pocket” expenses and therefore it’s just extra income.


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