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06-02-2020, 06:11 AM

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GHawk

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Originally Posted by Tpinks

lmao. Sure it is... all 30 minutes further west of the mother land.... oh and don’t forget about MCI and IAH...

He did say "large presence" which I don't think anyone would accuse our IAH or MCI bases of being.

06-04-2020, 04:36 PM

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Do you think this could be the end of the 145 for envoy then. Because those routes were 145 routes

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We are getting rid of all of our 140’s (around 20) at envoy, but picking up the 20 CPZ planes. The 145’s are remaining and still flying.

06-05-2020, 09:25 AM

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We are getting rid of all of our 140’s (around 20) at envoy, but picking up the 20 CPZ planes. The 145’s are remaining and still flying.

but American Eagle has to shrink, As of right now, around 20 each of large and small RJ’s will have to be removed just from the E190 and 757 fleet alone.

06-05-2020, 09:54 AM

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but American Eagle has to shrink, As of right now, around 20 each of large and small RJ’s will have to be removed just from the E190 and 757 fleet alone.

You're saying reductions on the regional side have to be made to account for the E190 and 757 reductions?

06-05-2020, 10:17 AM

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You're saying reductions on the regional side have to be made to account for the E190 and 757 reductions?

Yes due to scope I believe

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06-05-2020, 10:23 AM

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Yes due to scope I believe

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I obviously don't know the AA contract believe there's a 15 month timeline from the removal of those airframes to when the scope reduction has to be enforced. I think this also came into play when the Max was grounded but that may have been a different provision as the airplanes are technically still on the certificate.

06-05-2020, 10:52 AM

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but American Eagle has to shrink, As of right now, around 20 each of large and small RJ’s will have to be removed just from the E190 and 757 fleet alone.

So is that 20 reductions at each regional that does AA operations? or only wholly owned?

06-05-2020, 11:14 AM

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So is that 20 reductions at each regional that does AA operations? or only wholly owned?

I believe he's stating a reduction of 20 large and 20 small RJs across the entire American Eagle fleet. Can't speak to the validity of those numbers but that's how I read it.

06-05-2020, 01:46 PM

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lmao. Sure it is... all 30 minutes further west of the mother land.... oh and don’t forget about MCI and IAH...

IAH is gone dude once airlines aren't under the governments thumb for taking that money. There's been ZERO United (YX) flying out of Houston the past two months. Zero chance they keep it open for 3 daily American departures.

And you've been around RPA long enough to know ORD is and always has been on the back burner here. The only reason IND and MCI exist is because the massive amounts of departures to LGA and EWR. RPA is a northeast airline.

06-05-2020, 02:22 PM

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There is zero chance they keep it open for 3 AA departures, that's absolutely accurate. Beyond that, we have no idea with UA's intentions are for us in IAH. The way UA operates, I kinda doubt they know right now.

Not making a guess one way or another. Let's just say I have my involuntary bid placed, but I think it's folly to be making any real statements about what the UAX IAH operation will look like come October. With Mesa's financials, they could wind up virtually insolvent and that would change the calculus. Same with ExpressJet, if their most recent displacement bids are any indication. Best to just let it play out. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.