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quitty123456789 06-25-2020 04:57 AM

Breakdown of operation by carrier
 
In Pre-Corona times, when operations were normal, what was the breakdown of Republic flying by carrier as a percentage? Was it an even split (33% UA, 33% DL, 33% AA) or was there one carrier that had a higher percentage than the other two? I know flying and routes change and there's the regional shuffle every now and then but if you took a snapshot of operations December 2019, what would it look like?

Auburn17Pilot 06-25-2020 05:04 AM

Easiest way to answer this question is that we have 85 American planes, 65 United planes, and 68 Delta planes, 30 of those came from Compass. Plus 3 Republic branded planes used as spares for all codeshares. So math states about 40% American, 29% United 31% Delta.

This was Pre Corona. The compass airplanes for Delta may not come back, and Delta has been a lot slower adding back flying than American and United has. So how the cookie will crumble after this is said and done and passenger loads stabilize again is to be determined.


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Geardownflaps30 06-25-2020 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Auburn17Pilot (Post 3080543)
Easiest way to answer this question is that we have 85 American planes, 65 United planes, and 68 Delta planes, 30 of those came from Compass. Plus 3 Republic branded planes used as spares for all codeshares. So math states about 40% American, 29% United 31% Delta.

This was Pre Corona. The compass airplanes for Delta may not come back, and Delta has been a lot slower adding back flying than American and United has. So how the cookie will crumble after this is said and done and passenger loads stabilize again is to be determined.


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Actually, we never took delivery of the last 14 compass 175’s and 6 170’s for DL have come off lease. So currently, if they all came back on line there would be 45 planes operating for DL. We’ve never operated more than 78 planes in a month for AA since the bankruptcy and never more than 61 for United. The remainder are the spares accounting for aircraft cycling through heavy checks, paint shops, etc etc.

However now while we’re operating almost all our aircraft for AA and United (and only 13 for DL) the hours per plane is about 20-25% of the normal daily hours.

Tpinks 06-26-2020 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 3080591)
Actually, we never took delivery of the last 14 compass 175’s and 6 170’s for DL have come off lease. So currently, if they all came back on line there would be 45 planes operating for DL. We’ve never operated more than 78 planes in a month for AA since the bankruptcy and never more than 61 for United. The remainder are the spares accounting for aircraft cycling through heavy checks, paint shops, etc etc.

However now while we’re operating almost all our aircraft for AA and United (and only 13 for DL) the hours per plane is about 20-25% of the normal daily hours.

The last planes slated for us from Compass are still assigned to us. So unless something changes, they should be expected on property once everything recovers. And I don’t think 14 is the correct number. I seem to remember one of the QRPs announcing the 17th hitting the line already and there being 2-3 more going through conformity checks.

HoldenRavi 06-28-2020 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 3081629)
The last planes slated for us from Compass are still assigned to us. So unless something changes, they should be expected on property once everything recovers. And I don’t think 14 is the correct number. I seem to remember one of the QRPs announcing the 17th hitting the line already and there being 2-3 more going through conformity checks.

Any update on the new order?

LoneStar32 06-28-2020 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by HoldenRavi (Post 3082262)
Any update on the new order?

Yeah, we don't need the planes if we don't have the flying.

Geardownflaps30 06-28-2020 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Tpinks (Post 3081629)
The last planes slated for us from Compass are still assigned to us. So unless something changes, they should be expected on property once everything recovers. And I don’t think 14 is the correct number. I seem to remember one of the QRPs announcing the 17th hitting the line already and there being 2-3 more going through conformity checks.

Reference was the May 22 update from BB himself. I’ll go back and look and see if there was a QRP since that memo, but I don’t believe so. He was pretty clear about the 14 and 6 not happening this year at least. He also stated “hopefully” by summer 2021 “we will be able to recover most of this flying”. Point being, not good in short term (ie, a year out) for complete recovery to previous plans and hence the ensuing need for less pilots than previously planned, unfortunately.

(And yes. I know this situation and corporate statements are as fluid as the day after a bad night at Taco Hell!)

HoldenRavi 06-29-2020 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3082287)
Yeah, we don't need the planes if we don't have the flying.

Im not talking about today, I’m talking about the years coming.

LoneStar32 06-29-2020 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by HoldenRavi (Post 3082842)
Im not talking about today, I’m talking about the years coming.

okay, well the answer is still that we don’t need the jets if we don’t have the flying. There is no guarantee we will ever be as big as we were pre COVID again.

HoldenRavi 06-29-2020 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3082864)
okay, well the answer is still that we don’t need the jets if we don’t have the flying. There is no guarantee we will ever be as big as we were pre COVID again.

Demand will return and eventually surpass what it was in 2019. Aviation has always rebounded, it’s just a matter of time.


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