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Old 05-06-2023, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawk1G View Post
Signing this agreement is a terrible idea. It’s not really a 3 year agreement…you are not released from liability until you have served at least 2 years as a Captain. If upgrades were to stop for whatever reason, you’d be locked-in indefinitely and bound by a non-compete which restricts you from flying with any other 121 carrier. Sorry, this industry is too unpredictable. The juice is not worth the squeeze, JUST SAY NO kids!!!

this is a desperate act to hold on to pilots without any flow or hope other than with Republic. They will be out of business as a regional feed in 2 years and end up being a training company.
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Old 05-06-2023, 07:38 PM
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Am I seriously the only person that feels that if someone signs this they deserve exactly what they get. It’s like the student loan thing, if you sign a contract then read it first and be prepared to abide by it because it’s a freakin contract for heavens sake. Is it stupid? YES. Is it everything that’s wrong with RAH? Absolutely, but it’s not like you don’t have the opportunity to read it first and then to not sign it if you aren’t going to abide by the terms. Sadly I am afraid there are plenty of young people who will sign it, cash the check then beg their parents, a lawyer or the government to get them out of it. Yes it’s a terrible thing RAH is doing so don’t freakin sign it. Have some personal integrity. JMO and rant over
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Old 05-06-2023, 08:23 PM
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Being from Envoy, there's usually a fair amount of (mostly) healthy back and forth with Republic acquaintances both on the boards and in real life.

That being said, I'd take this new development as a massive red flag and a pressing motivation to gtfo. Stating the obvious, I'm sure, but this can't be a good sign.
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Old 05-06-2023, 09:41 PM
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Dont apply if you don’t like the terms.
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Old 05-07-2023, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot1011 View Post
Cape Air - where you'll fly for 700 PIC hrs, and upon completion, we will take you back as 121 Capt with bonus.
Where would you get the other 300 hours? Fly your tail off at RPA and uprage right after? It says take you back as a captain so..
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Old 05-07-2023, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Minimum three years (at least two as a CA) and a non compete contract. If you ever needed proof that the regionals are dying, this is it.
That would be a godsend for the other regionals. Imagine how many street captains they could hire? /s

But seriously...who will be the next to make newhires sign a contract?
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Old 05-07-2023, 05:47 AM
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That would be a godsend for the other regionals. Imagine how many street captains they could hire? /s

But seriously...who will be the next to make newhires sign a contract?
It all depends. Not everyone reads APC. Some won’t even know about this until they show up at intro, excited about their first chance at 121 flying. In fact, I rather imagine that’s how this was sprung on the first group. There is an old military saying about you can tell your recruiter is lying to you because their lips move.

And no, the demise of Republic would not be a godsend to other regionals. Do you seriously think the CAs at Republic would STAY in the regionals if they lost the “golden handcuffs” of their current pay and seniority? To be a DEC - to start again at the very bottom of the seniority list and watch every FO hired before them leapfrog over them for years? When even Delta is now waiving their 1000 hrs of turbine time to only a preference?

Nope. The regionals are dying. Get in and get out as quickly as you can be hired somewhere better. Or skip them altogether if you can. LC/ULCC, ACMI,Part 135, even Part 91 turbo jobs are out there, you just have to hustle for them.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:47 AM
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Does anyone know if the class that started this week signed this contract?
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
When even Delta is now waiving their 1000 hrs of turbine time to only a preference?
I don't disagree with you. But I imagine waiving that 1,000 hours isn't going to result in any meaningful changes to new hire class composition when Delta, American, and United insist that the bulk (~80%) of their hiring come from everywhere BUT the regionals.

The regional model can't die fast enough.
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I don't disagree with you. But I imagine waiving that 1,000 hours isn't going to result in any meaningful changes to new hire class composition when Delta, American, and United insist that the bulk (~80%) of their hiring come from everywhere BUT the regionals.

The regional model can't die fast enough.

And why is it that the regional model can't die fast enough? This should be interesting....
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