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Old 05-06-2023, 04:46 AM
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Default They would fight for 10 hours 121 to upgrade

Here’s the new Indoc contract FOs are offered. 60 grand bonus if they sign. If RPA could and the FAA allowed it, they would put folks into the left seat at 10 hours 121.

couldn’t upload so here’s a link to it from reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/1395f0u/republic_airways_new_indoc_contract_be_careful/

one of the funniest lines (paraphrased)
RPA is not hiring first officers (with no 121 time) we are hiring only hiring first officers that are committed to upgrade as soon as they hit a thousand 121.

pilots will give up scheduling freedoms

"Pilot will aggressively pursue the path to Captain upgrade, meaning Pilot is willing to pick up extra flight time available in addition to his/her monthly schedule in order to fly as many hours that are reasonably available to make Captain upgrade as soon as possible (i.e. within 12-18 months from date of hire ("DOH"), but no later than 24 months from
DOH);"


(not sure if they would push you right against your 117 limits but who knows)

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Old 05-06-2023, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FAR121 View Post
Here’s the new Indoc contract FOs are offered. 60 grand bonus if they sign. If RPA could and the FAA allowed it, they would put folks into the left seat at 10 hours 121.

couldn’t upload so here’s a link to it from reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/1395f0u/republic_airways_new_indoc_contract_be_careful/

one of the funniest lines (paraphrased)
RPA is not hiring first officers (with no 121 time) we are hiring only hiring first officers that are committed to upgrade as soon as they hit a thousand 121.

pilots will give up scheduling freedoms

"Pilot will aggressively pursue the path to Captain upgrade, meaning Pilot is willing to pick up extra flight time available in addition to his/her monthly schedule in order to fly as many hours that are reasonably available to make Captain upgrade as soon as possible (i.e. within 12-18 months from date of hire ("DOH"), but no later than 24 months from
DOH);"


(not sure if they would push you right against your 117 limits but who knows)
Same old Chautauqua. Safety first.... as long as it doesn't impact the schedule. 🙄
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Old 05-06-2023, 06:48 AM
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Minimum three years (at least two as a CA) and a non compete contract. If you ever needed proof that the regionals are dying, this is it.

clearly, the future fastest career path is going to be to one of the LC/ULCCs that is currently hemorrhaging FOs to the legacies to pick up a 320 or737 type and then start putting out apps and updating them every month.
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Old 05-06-2023, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Same old Chautauqua. Safety first.... as long as it doesn't impact the schedule. 🙄
Ok help me out here, what kind of person would sign this.
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Old 05-06-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Redtails4U View Post
Ok help me out here, what kind of person would sign this.
One sitting on a $300k debt for their Embry-Riddle training…
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Old 05-06-2023, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Redtails4U View Post
Ok help me out here, what kind of person would sign this.
It's getting roasted pretty hard in the few forums/circles I frequent, and at least one person claiming to be an attorney has pointed out some significant flaws in the contract, so it would SEEM glaringly obvious that it would be a bad idea to sign, right?

But there's scads of Restricted ATPs out there clamoring for an FO seat at the Regionals right now, and it's really, really hard to be circumspect about something like this when you're miserable where you are.

Just an anecdote, but there was an interesting side effect here: I had interviewed with RPA last summer and eventually got a CJO with no class date, and then the class date they assigned but never told me about was moved and meanwhile they ignored all communications. I shrugged and took an offer with another regional that treated me infinitely better than RPA did. That was almost a year ago.

Today, like many FOs, I'm sitting around on reserve and trying to fly when I can and hoping and praying to get trips post-consolidation because like everywhere else, we have a CA problem in that we don't have enough of them. Everyone knows that reserve universally sucks, it's just a degree of how bad, right?

Well, since this contract from RPA hit the streets I've re-evaluated my situation with fresh eyes and decided that although we don't have many of the things RPA does, we sure as hell don't have THAT stinker of a contract hanging over us. And it made me feel a little bit better about where I am, and the grass over at RPA looks just a little less green now.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
One sitting on a $300k debt for their Embry-Riddle training…
Ouch….and the truth hurts.
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Old 05-06-2023, 10:58 AM
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Ouch….and the truth hurts.
My money is on Republic going bankrupt within 2 years
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BB have you lost your mind?
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Ok help me out here, what kind of person would sign this.
I’d sign for a 700K$ bonus, BB if you are reading this send me a pm we will make a deal /s
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