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Old 08-18-2023, 07:42 AM
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Like the title says, I just want to know the honest thought process that went behind the decision to do so.
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Old 08-24-2023, 07:57 AM
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There's a whole thread about this with people giving their reasons for signing it and taking employment. To each their own. The running theme seems to be they were seeing the slow down in 0 hour part 121 time FO hiring and didn't want to wait until later in the year or next year to get a CJO when the other regionals may or may not start hiring fresh 1500 hour pilots for FO positions.
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:30 AM
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I signed because I have cjos at 2 other airlines with no chance of employment until early 2024, at the earliest, and other interviews that were never scheduled because they stopped hiring. I also think contracts are the future and everyone will have them.but Republic went too far. I also got no love from the ULCCs.

Several classmates are talking about moving to a major and just paying off the contract so that is an option.

I could be making $20,000 to $50,000 in a prop. Instead im making double that, in a safe jet, getting jet time and experience and not living with a roommate or parents.

If someone wants to wait for the market that's there choice, just do what is right for you.
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Old 08-24-2023, 12:08 PM
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Several classmates are talking about moving to a major and just paying off the contract so that is an option.
Interesting attitude. Did they did the math to determine that it will be about a first year FO salary at a legacy, give or take some, just to cover the $100K liquidated damages clause. Then another year's salary, give or take, to pay off the bonus repayments. That's all based on pre-tax income. Then any other outside financial obligations like allimony and/or child support garnishings, and maybe other debts to be paid like school, prior flight training, mortgage, kids' college, etc. And then will RPA let them pay it off over, say, 10 years? (not likely). It's like a mortgage on a condo in a mid-size city. I could go on, but you get it.

So, I'll say it again - to each their own. But that attitude that they'll accept the penalties and use potential future earnings to pay it off is not going be pleasant if that becomes reality. Never mind that there's also the outside chance they lose their medical after they leave RPA and can't earn legacy airline pay to catch up with the judgement hanging over them. Seems like a stressful way to start an airline career.
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Interesting attitude. Did they did the math to determine that it will be about a first year FO salary at a legacy, give or take some, just to cover the $100K liquidated damages clause. Then another year's salary, give or take, to pay off the bonus repayments. That's all based on pre-tax income. Then any other outside financial obligations like allimony and/or child support garnishings, and maybe other debts to be paid like school, prior flight training, mortgage, kids' college, etc. And then will RPA let them pay it off over, say, 10 years? (not likely). It's like a mortgage on a condo in a mid-size city. I could go on, but you get it.

So, I'll say it again - to each their own. But that attitude that they'll accept the penalties and use potential future earnings to pay it off is not going be pleasant if that becomes reality. Never mind that there's also the outside chance they lose their medical after they leave RPA and can't earn legacy airline pay to catch up with the judgement hanging over them. Seems like a stressful way to start an airline career.
can just imagine the Dave Ramsay rant in response to their justification for taking on such a debt-load... that would be an entertaining episode.
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can just imagine the Dave Ramsay rant in response to their justification for taking on such a debt-load... that would be an entertaining episode.
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My hope is mainline increase salary a bit or gives a signing bonuses of course he would probably hate that to
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My hope is mainline increase salary a bit or gives a signing bonuses of course he would probably hate that to
main line are actively metering any hires from their regionals. Rpa being one contracted at all 3 means they arenít going to bite on anyone from rpa if it potentially hurts their bottom line. With new contracts in place pay wonít be going up for several years and none of legacies off signing bonuses or even retention bonuses. Thereís only flow bonuses offered to regionals who stay long enough for the flow.

gonna have to recalculate that one. By the time the court battles are over itíll be years. Donít think for a second rpa canít deal you a black ball and get you black listed from legacies.
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. . . .My hope is mainline increase salary a bit or gives a signing bonuses of course he would probably hate that to
Have you not been paying attention to the contracts that United and AA have recently approved?
Please explain why you think mainline would hand out a signing bonus? I wanna hear that thought process.
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Increase salary or signing bonus at the majors birky? Why would anyone want to go to mainline for $110 an hour to start and an 18% 401k direct contribution or profit sharing. Maybe upgrade to something other than a 170 in less than a year. Good luck at bedfordís circus, youíll need it when you want to leaveÖ
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Didn't y'all used to make $20,000 then $40,000 a few years ago?
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