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Old 07-09-2024, 03:56 PM
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Alright, y'all. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm an MQ Cadet who is seriously considering throwing his app in as an indoc date this year is looking less and less likely in Eagle land. The contract is an obvious drawback, but an actual paycheck and building 121 time as opposed to putting around in ****boxes would be nice. Before I would think about signing the contract, I need to know: How was your experience with the training department?

I know that I'm gonna have to work my ass off in training no matter where I go, but I've heard mixed reviews about YX's training department. Some say they've had excellent experiences and that if you give it your all, you'll pass with flying colors. Others have said it's a mixed bag of instructors who give a **** about your success and others who don't.
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Old 07-10-2024, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by IrishWop
Alright, y'all. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm an MQ Cadet who is seriously considering throwing his app in as an indoc date this year is looking less and less likely in Eagle land. The contract is an obvious drawback, but an actual paycheck and building 121 time as opposed to putting around in ****boxes would be nice. Before I would think about signing the contract, I need to know: How was your experience with the training department?

I know that I'm gonna have to work my ass off in training no matter where I go, but I've heard mixed reviews about YX's training department. Some say they've had excellent experiences and that if you give it your all, you'll pass with flying colors. Others have said it's a mixed bag of instructors who give a **** about your success and others who don't.
I've been out of RPA for a bit, but when I left they were starting to hire instructors off the street, mostly retired mainline guys and gals. I've heard mixed reviews on them. There were a few hard nosed check airman that busted people balls, but those were pretty few. Show up with a good attitude and work hard. You'll get through.
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Old 07-10-2024, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IrishWop
Alright, y'all. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm an MQ Cadet who is seriously considering throwing his app in . . .
How's the reputation of the training department over there? I don't know but would venture to guess it's all the same, maybe?

Think of it like a line at Chipotle. The worker is told to dish out a certain portion size but humans being humans, some might give a little more while some might give a little less. But overall, there is an average that they all follow. Ask the patrons receiving the various portions and you will get differing opinions regardless if they were the one who got extra meat or one who received less than the others. Instructors are the same. Some might be a bit more lenient while others more harsh but in the end, there is a standard they all must follow. It is typically the perception of the student that dictates the rumors, regardless of which style of instructor they received.

At the end of the day, YOU, as the student, must be able to pass a few written tests, oral examination, and flight maneuvers within a set standard. If you cannot seem to figure out how to fly a V1 cut, single engine go-around, max crosswind take off & landing, no flap landing, etc. within the standard, then what else is there? Sure, the instructor does take on some responsibility to figure out why the student isn't getting it and try a different approach. However, this is the 121 world and airlines will cut their losses rather than continue to prescribe additional training. Some people just cannot make that transition from 172 to jet and begin to throw blame away from them.

Additionally, some individuals who have never been in a training program for a type rating utilizing a simulator, just struggle with the pace. This isn't like working with a CFI for any of your past ratings. There is a set footprint and the sims are fast paced with lots of "resets" and repositioning that can mess with one's flow and expectations of what's next. Messed up that approach to mins? You're gonna get repositioned back to about a 5mile final and asked "ready?" - "go". If you can't get your mindset back to where it needs to be, because you need more time (mentally), you're gonna struggle.

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I've been out of RPA for a bit, but when I left they were starting to hire instructors off the street, mostly retired mainline guys and gals. I've heard mixed reviews on them. There were a few hard nosed check airman that busted people balls, but those were pretty few. Show up with a good attitude and work hard. You'll get through.
I agree, but a good attitude will only take you so far.
Management has been slowly weeding out those hard-nosed, ball busting instructors and attempting to make sure everyone is testing/evaluating to the same required standard. But, yeah, a few still exist. No different than anywhere else.
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Originally Posted by IrishWop
Alright, y'all. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm an MQ Cadet who is seriously considering throwing his app in as an indoc date this year is looking less and less likely in Eagle land. The contract is an obvious drawback, but an actual paycheck and building 121 time as opposed to putting around in ****boxes would be nice. Before I would think about signing the contract, I need to know: How was your experience with the training department?

I know that I'm gonna have to work my ass off in training no matter where I go, but I've heard mixed reviews about YX's training department. Some say they've had excellent experiences and that if you give it your all, you'll pass with flying colors. Others have said it's a mixed bag of instructors who give a **** about your success and others who don't.
Had a good to great experience in training. Everyone in my class did well. I only heard of one student who went to the review board because of his performance. A few guys failed their MV or LOE but everyone (except the guy I never met) past on the recheck.

There are street hire trainers but they follow the company procedures so it's fine.

The contract sux but I'm almost ready to upgrade after about a year so it can be done quick - I think skw contract is worse because you have to reach 1,600 which could take longer than 2 years. But either way it's a job.

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Originally Posted by Bricky
Had a good to great experience in training. Everyone in my class did well. I only heard of one student who went to the review board because of his performance. A few guys failed their MV or LOE but everyone (except the guy I never met) past on the recheck.

There are street hire trainers but they follow the company procedures so it's fine.

The contract sux but I'm almost ready to upgrade after about a year so it can be done quick - I think skw contract is worse because you have to reach 1,600 which could take longer than 2 years. But either way it's a job.

Good luck
what do you think sux about the CBA?
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Old 07-12-2024, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bricky
Had a good to great experience in training. Everyone in my class did well. I only heard of one student who went to the review board because of his performance. A few guys failed their MV or LOE but everyone (except the guy I never met) past on the recheck.

There are street hire trainers but they follow the company procedures so it's fine.

The contract sux but I'm almost ready to upgrade after about a year so it can be done quick - I think skw contract is worse because you have to reach 1,600 which could take longer than 2 years. But either way it's a job.

Good luck
You’ve only been there for a year and ready to upgrade? Do you have any previous 121 experience?
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Originally Posted by Bricky
Had a good to great experience in training. Everyone in my class did well. I only heard of one student who went to the review board because of his performance. A few guys failed their MV or LOE but everyone (except the guy I never met) past on the recheck.

There are street hire trainers but they follow the company procedures so it's fine.

The contract sux but I'm almost ready to upgrade after about a year so it can be done quick - I think skw contract is worse because you have to reach 1,600 which could take longer than 2 years. But either way it's a job.

Good luck
Tell us more about the skw contract.
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