Republic Training Contract Being Enforced!
03-11-2012, 03:21 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by kingairfun
The only way that RAH can "collect" on the money (assuming you don't pay) is by serving you a summons and appearing in court...
This first letter is just an attempt to inform you of payment. After letting the deadline pass the only next step for them to take is serving you a summons..... This has to be done in person (they cannot mail you a summons regular mail). Either by law firm or certified mail..... You can make it difficult for them!
So logically you have to decide what the chances are they #1) find you in whatever city you are in...
And what are the chances they take it all the way to court...
I wouldn't pay for a lawyer until the time they actually serve you papers...
Training contracts are generally enforeceable assuming nothing was "promised to you" that didn't occur. There was a Flexjet pilot who fought this by way of not upgrading when they said he would. He won but it probably cost him more in lawyer fees than it would have to not fight it.
I signed a training contract back in the day at a charter co. Left a year early, and decided not to pay. They served me papers and it went to court. We settled out of court for slighly less than the original amount. However, if I had moved and they could not find me, then I would have been off the hook.
This first letter is just an attempt to inform you of payment. After letting the deadline pass the only next step for them to take is serving you a summons..... This has to be done in person (they cannot mail you a summons regular mail). Either by law firm or certified mail..... You can make it difficult for them!
So logically you have to decide what the chances are they #1) find you in whatever city you are in...
And what are the chances they take it all the way to court...
I wouldn't pay for a lawyer until the time they actually serve you papers...
Training contracts are generally enforeceable assuming nothing was "promised to you" that didn't occur. There was a Flexjet pilot who fought this by way of not upgrading when they said he would. He won but it probably cost him more in lawyer fees than it would have to not fight it.
I signed a training contract back in the day at a charter co. Left a year early, and decided not to pay. They served me papers and it went to court. We settled out of court for slighly less than the original amount. However, if I had moved and they could not find me, then I would have been off the hook.
03-11-2012, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
I'm "casting judgement" on someone who broke a contract; what's your point? And I'm sorry, but I can't take you seriously with that avatar. Fair-weather fan, are we?
To the OP: these contracts have been successfully fought, unfortunately it will take your time and resources in court to make this issue go away. Good luck with this situation and your medical issues.
Last edited by Kalamazoo; 03-11-2012 at 03:58 AM.
03-11-2012, 06:15 AM
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This thread sums up the character of SJS pilots. Lie, cheat, steal your way to a job that you are under-qualified for by any means necessary, and then scream how unfair it is when something like this happens.
I am not a fan of training contracts. That is why I wouldn't go somewhere that has one. If you all would follow suit, maybe Republic pilots wouldn't be flying 90 seat aircraft around for embarrassing wages.
I never thought the day would come, but I completely side with Management. This is a good time to learn accountability. Pay the money you owe them, and learn from your mistakes.
I am not a fan of training contracts. That is why I wouldn't go somewhere that has one. If you all would follow suit, maybe Republic pilots wouldn't be flying 90 seat aircraft around for embarrassing wages.
I never thought the day would come, but I completely side with Management. This is a good time to learn accountability. Pay the money you owe them, and learn from your mistakes.
03-11-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bolo
In HotMamapilots eyes you are a shady character!
Another empty kitchen is calling!
TurboDog, sorry that you had to go through that and you have my sympathies.
Another empty kitchen is calling!
TurboDog, sorry that you had to go through that and you have my sympathies.
With all the ignorant ammo HMP sets you up for you can easily find another way to insult her without lumping the rest of the female pilots in with her.
Unless of course that's really your opinion of us
03-11-2012, 06:42 AM
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Signing a contract and actually abiding by it - What a concept.
If you don't agree to the terms, don't sign it.
Even if the contract doesn't make you want to vomit, the volatility of the airline industry alone should steer you away from signing one of those things. Just look at some of those guys at Eagle who had to sign that 2 year deal - They're now tied to a sinking ship.
If you don't agree to the terms, don't sign it.
Even if the contract doesn't make you want to vomit, the volatility of the airline industry alone should steer you away from signing one of those things. Just look at some of those guys at Eagle who had to sign that 2 year deal - They're now tied to a sinking ship.
03-11-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FixTheMess
This thread sums up the character of SJS pilots. Lie, cheat, steal your way to a job that you are under-qualified for by any means necessary, and then scream how unfair it is when something like this happens.
03-11-2012, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HookEm
Not that I agree with "HotMamaPilot" because I don't. But how do you say something like "another empty kitchen" and then with your next post chide someone for being immature?
With all the ignorant ammo HMP sets you up for you can easily find another way to insult her without lumping the rest of the female pilots in with her.
Unless of course that's really your opinion of us
With all the ignorant ammo HMP sets you up for you can easily find another way to insult her without lumping the rest of the female pilots in with her.
Unless of course that's really your opinion of us
Apologies to you HookEm and all the other females out there.
03-11-2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by HookEm
Not that I agree with "HotMamaPilot" because I don't. But how do you say something like "another empty kitchen" and then with your next post chide someone for being immature?
With all the ignorant ammo HMP sets you up for you can easily find another way to insult her without lumping the rest of the female pilots in with her.
Unless of course that's really your opinion of us
With all the ignorant ammo HMP sets you up for you can easily find another way to insult her without lumping the rest of the female pilots in with her.
Unless of course that's really your opinion of us
The guy broke a contract; this is a FACT. But you people don't care about facts. Oh well, I'll go back to my VERY EXPENSIVE kitchen.
03-11-2012, 08:27 AM
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Training contracts
Enforceability is on a state by state basis.
So check the state that Republic is going to sue you in.
I think you have to be somewhere around $75k for the lawsuit to be filed in federal court.
However, your best bet after speaking with an attorney is to open up dialogue with the former company and work out a solution.
It only gets worse from here if you don't.
Fwiw
TC
So check the state that Republic is going to sue you in.
I think you have to be somewhere around $75k for the lawsuit to be filed in federal court.
However, your best bet after speaking with an attorney is to open up dialogue with the former company and work out a solution.
It only gets worse from here if you don't.
Fwiw
TC
03-11-2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I'm sure they have more than enough information to turn it over to a collections agency and trash his credit. No need to find him.
I don't think it can go directly to collections... It's a training contract, not a recurring bill (like a gym membership).. It can eventually go to collections, but only after it proceeds through the proper channels, IE:court. Then it's up to the judge how to proceed with the transfer of money...
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