Moonwolf

Because the engines are on the bottom of the wing, it makes people feel special

DoNotReset

You are absolutely right. But, if the airplanes go to Republic, then the new hires will go there too. I doubt that eagle guys will go to Republic to start all over again just to fly a new tin can. We will have the 95% clause that may cause a pilot surplus and a mandatory 50% of new hires being eagle guys. I see more potential if we don't get the airplanes than if we do. The point that I am trying to make is that we must create a situation where the company cannot withhold guys.

DoNotReset

There was a letter from the union stating that this flying will be mostly new flying and it will not affect Eagle operations. I will try to find it.

DoNotReset

Yep, I am not a fan of the union at all, actually there is only one guy that I think is trying to do a good job in there. It's too big of an organization, without accountability, and conflict of interest.

We voted for this TA, I propose that we take advantage of the little provisions that are beneficial to the pilot group, like the 50% new hire thing. I don't hear the union fighting for our long term career potential, they have no incentive to do so. The longer they keep eagle pilots flying regionals and having a crappy QOL the more money they make.

DoNotReset

"At the outset of AMR’s bankruptcy, senior management was clear that their plan for successful emergence from bankruptcy called for increased regional feed capacity and that capacity increase would include diversification among feed operators. Part of AMR’s fleet plan called for large RJ feed to be contracted with third party feed providers prior to the arrival of large RJs at Eagle.

This RFP award is a piece of AMR’s plan of reorganization and does not impact the fleet plan for American Eagle."

- Union Newsblast Jan. 24th

Of course, this does not mean much, but still...

DoNotReset

It seems that the 175 will operate mostly out of ORD. I imagine they will do some of the long routes like the CRJ does right now. I flew the CRJ for almost 5 years, when the first class seats came in it really felt more like an acceptable transport aircraft. I really miss those free meals

I am hoping to see more of what Delta is doing with the 717s. Maybe AA will get the 190s and fly the new routes. I'd rather fly that thing as the bottom of the pay scale at a legacy than a 175 as the top I could ever make.

buddies8

ord ca lec rep to the pilot of ord eagle in Febuary//

"First, the ORD domicile is NOT closing. The outsourced flying will start this summer and slowly take over much of our current 70 seat work but the actual deployment is to be determined. Management indicates that with expected attrition to AA and other mainline carriers coupled with re-fleeting efforts of the “Real Eagle,” there may be little if any need to actually displace out of ORD. The plan is for us to continue to operate out of ORD though it may be a smaller base over the next few years. "

this cap rep that just ended his term is a moron on a good day. so we are not going to displace because he is hoping the flows go to aa, BUT the L-eagle will be downsized in ord. AMR filing in court, eagle will be 80% of the 50 seater flying out of ORD. So good by to the CRJ's and E140's. But other than that, this is good, as per ALPA.

RyanP

I'm not sure what you are talking about with the 95% furlough clause vs the Flow? They are unrelated.

The 824 will go at the metered 20/mo regardless or 50%, whichever is less. They will never allow more than that # unless we are furloughing and it's mandatory. Winkley has said this himself. Plan on 20/mo flow.

I don't follow your logic of us losing airplanes and not replacing them being a good thing either. That makes absolutely no sense. Having other airlines replace our fleet while we shrink is not a good thing. Not ever. I guess you're not a junior CA or a senior FO that is teetering on the edge of a seat change (again). What is happening equals less CA seats for us, less money, more stagnation, displacements, worse schedules, and lower QOL all around. We haven't even factored in the stupid PBS yet of our own idiots doing.. which will even further reduce our CA seats required. If the new airplanes were coming here, we would be getting plenty of those new hires with SJS to cover them.

Sorry, I'm not going to be happy about some undercutting bottom feeder airline with a terrible pilot contract, taking over our Chicago flying. People have homes, families, and lives there, and many of them are going to get displaced across the country. Just like all the LAX pilots recently did. In no way is Republic flying for AA a good thing for us here at Eagle. I don't know how any Eagle pilot could possibly not be upset about people working for lower pay coming into our system, and taking over our flying. Yeah, it's business but I don't have to like it.

buddies8

the alpa supporters are happy. i can only wait til they realize how they have been played and they are still here.

PilotJ3

Don't say that too loud. Hahahahaha then you'll have the senior AE CA saying "I can't afford being a 190 FO at AA".