Republic - IBT Nat'l takes over Negotiations
 

So, National IBT has taken over negotiations without even notifying the Local 357 EBoard.

I loved hearing the attempted “spin” on the conference call when Wilder was trying to explain WHY this occurred. In the background you could hear Muffin whispering, “jumpstart”, but Wilder ignored him and pressed on with his own explanation.

I could have sworn that IBT’s biggest selling point on the difference between IBT and ALPA was, IBT is a “bottom up” union, while ALPA is a “top down” union.

National arranging meetings to set dates for meetings with a “Private Mediator” and negotiating on our behalf doesn’t seem like a “bottom up” type of philosophy as previously advertised.

Any truth to the rumor that National is completely fed up with the Local?

Troll troll troll. If National was really fed up with our local leadership they wouldn't have asked in the letter released on the company intranet for Republic to reinstate the Muffin without arbitration and with full back pay. Instead of being so negative perhaps a little optimism that the company is ready to deal is in order. Perhaps the staffing issues combined with attrition are finally bringing BB and WH to their knees. Perhaps mainline partners told BB no more flying until labor unrest is settled? Either way I believe in this pilot group not to fall for a Bendover Air or PSA style contract after 7 years of Republic getting a free ride. Show me a TA approved by our NC and if it's good I will vote yes. Everything else is a NO vote.

If they have then they are full of it. Have you read the unions proposal at all... Of course not.. Too quick to jump on here and be yourself. I don't want to call you what you are because I don't want to get banned. The reason you haven't gotten banned yet is because the moderators must be frontier

But back to the original point, what the 357 is asking for is not unreasonable at all. It's all available online. If they have taken over its because they don't want the expense of our negotiations or they see how bought and paid for the nmb is. They must think the whole thing is futile.

Our flight attendants vote was a joke. Many many senior flight attendants never got ballots. You could read through the envelope what someone's voted. What they did should put someone in jail.

I hope teamsters isn't trying to do the same thing to us.

Did you know your a real piece of work?

No.

There is no truth to that.

Hey 3662--how are things over at F9??

Based on this letter and the exclusion of the 357 Negotiating Committee, is the phrase, “My NC speaks for me.” still our mantra or even valid?

Republic Airways, IBT to resume negotiations on Nov. 18

November 4, 2013 By RJET

The following is the letter from Republic Airways Executive Vice President and COO Wayne Heller to IBT Airline Division Director David Bourne confirming the dates of resumed contract negotiations:


November 1, 2013
Captain David Bourne, Director
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Airline Division
25 Louisiana Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20001


Dear Captain Bourne:

This will confirm our agreement to meet for resumption of negotiations on November18-20, at the Embassy Suites North in Indianapolis, IN, with the assistance of private mediator Margaret Leibowitz.

We understand that the Union team will be headed by Captain Rick Dubinsky. We would appreciate being advised when the remaining team members have been selected.

We welcome this renewed effort, and are hopeful that we will be able to arrive expeditiously at a mutually acceptable agreement.

Sincerely,

Wayne Heller
Executive Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Dear Frontier troll,

I noticed a LOT of union time for November on one of the NC member's schedules and wondered what was happening well before the company made the announcement and tried to make it sound as if the local was "blindsided" by this.

Clearly they were not....and your constant bombardment of ludicrous assertions (which have, I may remind you, been proven to be false many times in the past) are not changing anyone's mind. In fact, I would equate the credibility of your posts to that of the emails you might find in your spam filter.

Shouldn't you be working on improving your "radio voice" for when you guys start pitching pizza delivery companies in Trenton over the PA as part of your new ULCC business model?

In fact, in the spirit of "brotherhood," I'd like to help you with that so your commission check can help make up that equity stake that everyone else in the world who has ever dealt with Bedford automatically knew that you would never see. Just remember; Pronunciation, annunciation, inflection and pitch. Speak as if the sound is coming from your diaphragm and never forget that people can "hear" your smile. :)

Also, check out the movie "Stroker Ace." Flying whilst wearing a chicken outfit would really move some merch! It'd also be appropriate for a few of you guys in so many ways....you, in particular.

Good luck.....you guys need it a hell of a lot more than us.

Well said. 3662 is an even bigger chicken than JM from the Miami Dolphins.

We understand that the Union team will be headed by Captain Rick Dubinsky. We would appreciate being advised when the remaining team members have been selected.



Not that I'm a big fan of national union people, but do you understand the difference between the national team and the local or are you that dense? I'm sure you are one of the pilots that trashed the Midwest 8......you just seem like that type!!

Agreed. 100%.

Why does it not surprise me that an IBT member or members would take Richie Incognito’s position in the situation in Miami?

You have certainly earned your reputation.

So IBT members are super villains like RI...The Incognito... Cool story

Man, do you guys ever prove the point Frontier and Midwest tried to make to Eischen. There's statistically 10-20 years of experience and maturity between the groups. You demonstrate it almost daily.

The "super villains" are also the lifers, just like Incognito, they have spent a lifetime of showing that they don't work and play well with others. He must be quite the role model for those pilots.

For the non-lunatics at RAH, I hope you get out as soon as possible, sadly, this stuff IS contagious.

Because you're so mature and so much better than anyone at RAH supporting that troll 3662. Seriously. Judging an entire pilot group is really stupid. Should I judge the entire F9 group based on you and 3662? I guess you really are typical F9 pilots.

For you to say that Midwest and Frontier pilots are better because of your experience and maturity is absolutely ridiculous. We are all airline pilots. We all want better pay, work rules, career opportunities. RAH is not and will never be a career airline but it doesn't mean this pilot group won't keep trying to raise the bar.

I don't care who negotiates the stupid TA. If MY NC (that includes the Muffin) does not recommend the TA then it is an automatic NO vote for every Republic pilot. I seriously hope IBT National isn't trying to ram a crap deal down our throats. If that happens then it will be time to decertify the IBT and start over.

Finally, not every lifer as you put it is a super villain. 9/11 changed the industry and a lot of careers and dreams were affected. But go ahead and keep judging and assuming you're better because you work at Mainline Frontier.

Nbecca
What are you doing in regional section? :)

10-20 years? Hmm I guess 1 year in Great Lakes is like 5 in real airline years