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Makanakis 06-17-2016 10:02 PM

Court approves amended Republic-United Agreem
 
Bankruptcy court approves amended Republic Airways and United Airlines Agreement

MacrossJet 06-18-2016 01:04 AM

"allows for further deliveries of Embraer 175s under revised new aircraft delivery schedules."

Sounds like future growth, for Republic.

DL31082 06-18-2016 06:04 AM

You left out the part that said "under certain conditions." Who knows what those conditions are. It doesn't mean future growth. It just means that if they can satisfy those "certain conditions" they can grow. I would bet my paycheck that one of those conditions is being able to staff them.

PilotGuy77 06-18-2016 08:43 AM

How stable is the DCA base? Any rumors about possible close? Trying to stay commutable! Via car.


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MacrossJet 06-18-2016 08:44 AM

How senior, or junior are EWR and ORD?

TogaParty 06-18-2016 09:41 AM

Even if Republic could staff additional 175s, isn't UA scoped out on large RJs?

knewyork 06-18-2016 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by MacrossJet (Post 2147152)
How senior, or junior are EWR and ORD?

Ewr is very junior. Not sure about ord. I've heard mixed things. What I do know is that in ewr you're likely to have a line in a few months. Ord is years.

CrosswindSolo 06-19-2016 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by TogaParty (Post 2147180)
Even if Republic could staff additional 175s, isn't UA scoped out on large RJs?

Scope limit should increase when the B737-700s start coming online right?

Shrek 06-20-2016 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by CrosswindSolo (Post 2147944)
Scope limit should increase when the B737-700s start coming online right?

Nope.......and that is a good thing

CrosswindSolo 06-21-2016 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Shrek (Post 2147950)
Nope.......and that is a good thing

Oh okay, thought I read somewhere a while back in a United press release that for every 100-120 seat jet the order, that United could order 3-4 76 seat RJs. Couldn't find it though.

Regardless, agreed it is a good thing.

amcnd 06-21-2016 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by CrosswindSolo (Post 2148488)
Oh okay, thought I read somewhere a while back in a United press release that for every 100-120 seat jet the order, that United could order 3-4 76 seat RJs. Couldn't find it though.

Regardless, agreed it is a good thing.

You are correct. Problem is the 737's are over that seating capacity.. So the union says sorry no more RJ's

lakehouse 06-21-2016 03:48 AM

Still crickets for rah and aag

McNugent 06-21-2016 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2148508)
You are correct. Problem is the 737's are over that seating capacity.. So the union says sorry no more RJ's

Not exactly. The 737-700 seats less than 120 (118 if I remember correctly), but UAL would have to have a new small narrow body order to trigger an increase in the scope clause. C-series and EMB 190 orders would fit this bill, not the 737 or A319 additions. This is definitely not a "problem", it's actually a very good thing.

Fewer RJs = more mainline jobs. You know the math by now.

WhiskeyDelta 06-21-2016 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by McNugent (Post 2148594)
Not exactly. The 737-700 seats less than 120 (118 if I remember correctly), but UAL would have to have a new small narrow body order to trigger an increase in the scope clause. C-series and EMB 190 orders would fit this bill, not the 737 or A319 additions. This is definitely not a "problem", it's actually a very good thing.



Fewer RJs = more mainline jobs. You know the math by now.



They can easily get more seats on the 700 to circumvent the scope issue. Ours at Delta has 124 total in our 3 class layout. My guess is UAL has a mid-cabin closet unlike us.

MasterOfPuppets 06-21-2016 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2148694)
They can easily get more seats on the 700 to circumvent the scope issue. Ours at Delta has 124 total in our 3 class layout. My guess is UAL has a mid-cabin closet unlike us.

Scope has nothing to do with how many seats are in the 737-700.

Key word is NEW aircraft. United must buy a NEW small narrow body aircraft that is currently NOT on the certificate.

United will get as many 175s as it wants. They just have to park CRJ 700s.

TogaParty 06-21-2016 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2148709)
Scope has nothing to do with how many seats are in the 737-700.

Key word is NEW aircraft. United must buy a NEW small narrow body aircraft that is currently NOT on the certificate.

United will get as many 175s as it wants. They just have to park CRJ 700s.

That seems to be the plan correct? Continue to shed 700s and replace them with 175s within current scope limits of course.

MasterOfPuppets 06-21-2016 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by TogaParty (Post 2148723)
That seems to be the plan correct? Continue to shed 700s and replace them with 175s within current scope limits of course.

I know a couple of SkyWest 700s have already been shed. I don't know what the plan is, all I know is that scope is set and the 737s and 319s aren't going to change the numbers.


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