Blown Tire on T/O
03-19-2018, 09:07 AM
#31
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Try reading it again. Based on an event that I had happen and as I said. We didn’t know the tire had blown until we contacted departure. So the gear was already up when we found out about it. You guys are all making the assumption that you’ll know if a tire blows on take off. It isn’t always that apparent or obvious on the flight deck.
In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues. If you know the tire blew then obviously don’t put the gear up.
In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues. If you know the tire blew then obviously don’t put the gear up.
The question regards sucking up the gear after a known failure.
03-19-2018, 09:35 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
It's been said many times; if one doesn't know the tire or wheel has failed, then it's irrelevant.
The question regards sucking up the gear after a known failure.
The question regards sucking up the gear after a known failure.
03-19-2018, 04:06 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by Airhoss
Try reading it again. Based on an event that I had happen and as I said. We didn’t know the tire had blown until we contacted departure. So the gear was already up when we found out about it. You guys are all making the assumption that you’ll know if a tire blows on take off. It isn’t always that apparent or obvious on the flight deck.
In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues. If you know the tire blew then obviously don’t put the gear up.
In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues. If you know the tire blew then obviously don’t put the gear up.
You:
"Either way you've got to land. Might as well land at destination without all the drama of burning off three hours of fuel to get to landing weight. If you were not initially aware of a blown tire and the gear is already in the hole before you became aware why wouldn't you continue to destination?"
Me:
"What if there are ragged chunks of rubber hanging from a shredded tire.
It's possible that when retracted into the wheel well, they snag/damage some wiring or hydraulic lines they wouldn't normally touch. It a reason to at least consider staying nearby."
Now you are starting to add qualifiers:
"In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues"
That was exactly what I said in my first post... what if other things are damaged by the gear that was put up into the wheel well.
03-19-2018, 09:29 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Gnaw
What we have here is failure to communicate, so here it is again.
You:
"Either way you've got to land. Might as well land at destination without all the drama of burning off three hours of fuel to get to landing weight. If you were not initially aware of a blown tire and the gear is already in the hole before you became aware why wouldn't you continue to destination?"
Me:
"What if there are ragged chunks of rubber hanging from a shredded tire.
It's possible that when retracted into the wheel well, they snag/damage some wiring or hydraulic lines they wouldn't normally touch. It a reason to at least consider staying nearby."
Now you are starting to add qualifiers:
"In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues"
That was exactly what I said in my first post... what if other things are damaged by the gear that was put up into the wheel well.
You:
"Either way you've got to land. Might as well land at destination without all the drama of burning off three hours of fuel to get to landing weight. If you were not initially aware of a blown tire and the gear is already in the hole before you became aware why wouldn't you continue to destination?"
Me:
"What if there are ragged chunks of rubber hanging from a shredded tire.
It's possible that when retracted into the wheel well, they snag/damage some wiring or hydraulic lines they wouldn't normally touch. It a reason to at least consider staying nearby."
Now you are starting to add qualifiers:
"In that case you might as well continue on if there are no other issues"
That was exactly what I said in my first post... what if other things are damaged by the gear that was put up into the wheel well.
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