ERAU Arrow crash preliminary report
#21
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Would a couple of high speed ( > Vne) dives (low passes) sufficiently weaken the wing.
I was glad when the owner of the flightschool I worked for switched to a whole new fleet.
I knew and flew every airplane from zero hours, hired the CFI’s that flew them and was very friendly with our Head of MX.
I knew what was wrong with each airplane and how it was repaired.
We at one point considered data loggers ( altitude & airspeed).
I was glad when the owner of the flightschool I worked for switched to a whole new fleet.
I knew and flew every airplane from zero hours, hired the CFI’s that flew them and was very friendly with our Head of MX.
I knew what was wrong with each airplane and how it was repaired.
We at one point considered data loggers ( altitude & airspeed).
In a flight school environment, I have seen the results of pilots screwing around beyond their or the aircrafts ability. Actually had a renter pilot get a guilty conscience once and confess. He couldn't get to sleep later that evening. He suggested that the aircraft be inspected. Unfortunately, That's not the Norm.
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Not likely a couple Vne dives would cause damage, if performed carefully and in smooth air. As a maintenance test pilot I routinely took aircraft to Vne during return to service flights after any flight control surfaces were replaced. I've also, slightly, exceed Vne per FAA request during flight test of external Mods. This said, Don't recommend it for any other reasons, and it was always done without passengers.
In a flight school environment, I have seen the results of pilots screwing around beyond their or the aircrafts ability. Actually had a renter pilot get a guilty conscience once and confess. He couldn't get to sleep later that evening. He suggested that the aircraft be inspected. Unfortunately, That's not the Norm.
In a flight school environment, I have seen the results of pilots screwing around beyond their or the aircrafts ability. Actually had a renter pilot get a guilty conscience once and confess. He couldn't get to sleep later that evening. He suggested that the aircraft be inspected. Unfortunately, That's not the Norm.
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True statement. Another one that test pilots dislike is the aft CG tests. Thankfully as a maintenance pilot, all those were above my qualifications and pay grade. I was only issued the small set of brass balls
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I knew a test pilot killed along with two others testing the aft CG of the C-23 Shirpa. They got into a flat spin at 10,000’ and couldn’t get out.
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Don't know if they use them on larger airplanes during test flights. I know the crew had personal parachutes. The flight engineer was found close to the door so it was assumed he was trying to bail but couldn't get out if I remember correctly (this was in 1992).
#27
The CRJ had a fatal stall spin test because the drogue deployed but then detached. IIRC one of the pilots may have accidentally pulled the release handle before the deploy handle.
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The original Canadair Challenger business jet also crashed, at Mojave during certification, aft CG flight test... I remember that well as I stopped into Mojave that morning to get gas; about an hour before it crashed.
#30
Personally I've only flown the older Hershey Bar wing Arrows. I can't imagine how many hours some of them had and never an issue I was aware of beyond the old radios sucked. I'm sure the NTSB will check but I'd really like to know if the bolts were properly torqued.
Last edited by aeroengineer; 04-21-2018 at 08:46 AM. Reason: spellun
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