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trip 05-14-2018 07:16 AM

Airbus cockpit window departs.
 
Chinese airliner makes emergency landing after cockpit window falls out nearly sucking co-pilot out of cabin | South China Morning Post

F/O partially blown out, cockpit damaged.

interview with Capt on PPrune.

https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...d-blowout.html

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/socie...cockpit-window

rickair7777 05-14-2018 08:05 AM

Wow. Didn't know that still happened. I'd be curious to learn if it was a design/mfg flaw or some MX issue.

trip 05-14-2018 09:22 AM

Yes it shouldn't take long to find out what cause the failure. I read up on the British Airways similar incident in 1990, that was caused by bolts of the wrong size diameter (undersized). The installing mech claimed that he installed they same size bolts that he took out, which turned to be true, although they were not the proper size called for by manufacturer.

This China incident was followed by visual flight over high terrain with sub freezing temps and no NAV/auto.

Awesome job of flying it back safely by the Capt. & crew.

UAL T38 Phlyer 05-14-2018 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2593639)
Wow. Didn't know that still happened. I'd be curious to learn if it was a design/mfg flaw or some MX issue.

I'd guess mx. No Bus has ever had an unexplained windscreen blowout before.

The bent MCP was pretty impressive. :eek:

sailingfun 05-17-2018 02:43 PM

Airline claims no maintenance was done on the window since delivered from Airbus in 2011.

UAL T38 Phlyer 05-17-2018 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2596365)
Airline claims no maintenance was done on the window since delivered from Airbus in 2011.

Wow...that is surprising (and more than a little scary).

Adlerdriver 05-17-2018 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2596402)
Wow...that is surprising (and more than a little scary).

Maybe we're dealing with various definitions of "maintenance". Perhaps inspections, cleaning, etc. aren't viewed as "maintenance" by this airline and they're referring more to non-routine repairs. How much upkeep does a forward, fixed window really need unless something goes wrong with it?

UAL T38 Phlyer 05-17-2018 04:07 PM

Yeah, that’s my point...unless mis-installed by mx...what else can cause a blowout like that?

Adlerdriver 05-17-2018 04:27 PM

I thought you were expressing concern that a forward window could go 7-ish years without "maintenance".

Perhaps mis-installed during initial construction at Airbus?

rickair7777 05-17-2018 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2596436)
I thought you were expressing concern that a forward window could go 7-ish years without "maintenance".

Perhaps mis-installed during initial construction at Airbus?


How the hell do you mis-install a window? You either use the right bolts or you don't. Even if you didn't torque them right the failure mode would be slow leak not blowout.


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