AA flight caught in hail storm (Pictures)
06-06-2018, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Singlecoil
I would wager this is a case of a fully attenuated echo. One of the meteorologists even alluded to that assertion.
It's really long past due we get some up to date live radar feeds on the tablets.
06-06-2018, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
I agree as long as the equipment was working on the ground.
Just looked at ELP - they're kind of limited on them. One runway (22). But based on the ground track on flightradar, it looks like they got 22.
Originally Posted by AirBear
With 3b you see the runway maybe a second or two before you land.
06-06-2018, 08:28 AM
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06-06-2018, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Singlecoil
I would wager this is a case of a fully attenuated echo. One of the meteorologists even alluded to that assertion.
I don't know what AA's Ops manual says about min distance from CB's but ours was 20 miles while enroute. Tough to do sometimes. This was to protect against hail which can be spit out quite a few miles from a CB, and also from lightning.
06-06-2018, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
I don't know what AA's Ops manual says about min distance from CB's but ours was 20 miles while enroute. Tough to do sometimes. This was to protect against hail which can be spit out quite a few miles from a CB, and also from lightning.
06-06-2018, 08:51 AM
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It's been almost 16 years since my last A320 flight, have they added any kind of autoland ability that doesn't need a Cat 3 ILS? In the Phenom we did the precision RNAV down to near ILS mins. I just looked at the plate for ILS 22 @ ELP. Looks like Cat 1 only but they do have the RVR's and stuff. I suppose the autoland would work with any ILS signal. Or they could have had some vis out the window, hard to tell without a closer up photo.
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Equipment? You mean the ILS?
Just looked at ELP - they're kind of limited on them. One runway (22). But based on the ground track on flightradar, it looks like they got 22.
Unless your cockpit's still in the soup during the flare. There have been times I've seen nothing until the mains are on the ground and the nose is coming down.
Just looked at ELP - they're kind of limited on them. One runway (22). But based on the ground track on flightradar, it looks like they got 22.
Unless your cockpit's still in the soup during the flare. There have been times I've seen nothing until the mains are on the ground and the nose is coming down.
06-06-2018, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
It's been almost 16 years since my last A320 flight, have they added any kind of autoland ability that doesn't need a Cat 3 ILS? In the Phenom we did the precision RNAV down to near ILS mins. I just looked at the plate for ILS 22 @ ELP. Looks like Cat 1 only but they do have the RVR's and stuff. I suppose the autoland would work with any ILS signal. Or they could have had some vis out the window, hard to tell without a closer up photo.
06-06-2018, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Range from the storm is one factor. One needs to also consider winds aloft. 20NM downwind from a large storm may not be nearly enough. Personally, I'd take 10 NM upwind before I'd take 20 NM downwind from a big nasty one.
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06-06-2018, 12:07 PM
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We penetrated a cell back in my Navy days. I was the third pilot just about to go to sleep in the rack at the time. Then all hell broke loose. Our front radar was gone, so the rest of the trip involved doing 360 degree turns every so often to check weather with our aft radar. The hail put a hole in the radome that looked like it took a blast from a double barrel shotgun.
A very terrifying event . . .
A very terrifying event . . .
06-06-2018, 12:46 PM
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Best troll comments from the link (so far)...
Durandal47
Please, someone knit me a Hilary joke about this......
Latriotsdad
There's more hail damage on Hillary's thighs than on that plane.
I've never seen her thighs, but that's just non-partisan funny.
Durandal47
Please, someone knit me a Hilary joke about this......
Latriotsdad
There's more hail damage on Hillary's thighs than on that plane.
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