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Old 06-10-2018, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 View Post
It’s out. Not gonna post whole thing, but I find this interesting to say the least. NTSB used FO’s personal IPhone to find a bunch of text messages about the capt’s less adequate judgment and instrument abilities. Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but this is the first I’ve seen something so personal cracked open by NTSB. Not sure how to feel about it, but clearly big brother is watching...

https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/61000-61...194/615487.pdf
Speechless.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:29 AM
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Not entirely. You managed one word.
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Not entirely. You managed one word.
The word “speechless” wasn’t part of the speech.
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Old 06-10-2018, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
This is the docket opening, not the final report yet.
I've seen enough.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_NmFCRFBoQ

Here's the CCTV footage. Warning, it shows the crash and may be disturbing to some.
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Old 06-11-2018, 11:00 PM
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The inevitable result when there is no pilot on board.

It would appear that the cockpit was populated by passengers.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:33 AM
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Isn't this the same outfit that had a fatal midair with Shorts 360's while formation flying over Wisconsin?
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:33 AM
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Isn't this the same outfit that had a fatal midair with Shorts 360's while formation flying over Wisconsin?
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:47 PM
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The real question is how a Shorts crashed that fast. They travel slow enough that they are often mistaken for flying in reverse and are frequently found camoflaged in discarded misshapen piles of refridgerator boxes.
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The real question is how a Shorts crashed that fast. They travel slow enough that they are often mistaken for flying in reverse and are frequently found camoflaged in discarded misshapen piles of refridgerator boxes.
Several thousand hrs in the box and I can’t understand it either. Very forgiving plane but ya still gotta fly it. Also, an aircraft without an operable autopilot means your instrument skills should be sharp as heck. I know I’ll never be as sharp at hand flying on instruments as I was on that plane.
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