Lion Air 737 Max Accident
10-31-2018, 12:14 PM
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Surprised not one person has mentioned the possibility that there could have been a bomb on board.
A passenger disturbance in the back could have been the reason they leveled off and requested a turn back to the airport. Then sets off a bomb.
A passenger disturbance in the back could have been the reason they leveled off and requested a turn back to the airport. Then sets off a bomb.
10-31-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
Surprised not one person has mentioned the possibility that there could have been a bomb on board.
A passenger disturbance in the back could have been the reason they leveled off and requested a turn back to the airport. Then sets off a bomb.
A passenger disturbance in the back could have been the reason they leveled off and requested a turn back to the airport. Then sets off a bomb.
10-31-2018, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
The feel disagree is just a message telling you the pilot static systems are out of whack. It monitors the rudder feel system which in the grand scheme of things isn’t a huge deal at all.
Losing one or both pitot static systems in night or IMC, however, can be momentarily very disorienting. Depending on the level of automation and how dependent the pilots are on that automation, it can easily be deadly even in day VMC.
Losing one or both pitot static systems in night or IMC, however, can be momentarily very disorienting. Depending on the level of automation and how dependent the pilots are on that automation, it can easily be deadly even in day VMC.
On some of the older jets you could make a very subtle input in the cockpit and have it translated into a significantly larger movement of the elevator.
10-31-2018, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
Surprised not one person has mentioned the possibility that there could have been a bomb on board.
A passenger disturbance in the back could have been the reason they leveled off and requested a turn back to the airport. Then sets off a bomb.
A passenger disturbance in the back could have been the reason they leveled off and requested a turn back to the airport. Then sets off a bomb.
11-02-2018, 04:37 PM
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Reading now about the violent deviations on the previous flight due to what the crew described as a “flight control malfunction”. The crew elected to continue to destination after it rectified itself.
You’ve GOT to be kidding me....
You’ve GOT to be kidding me....
11-05-2018, 12:40 PM
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11-05-2018, 01:55 PM
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I would not be surprised if it is water in the lines (from tropical squalls while parked), a kink, a bad drain, or manufacturing debris in the lines (previously undiscovered because it was new), or a bad Air Data sensor.
Sadly, there are several examples in accident history of differing indications between Capt and FO...and the crew usually made the wrong determination.
Sadly, there are several examples in accident history of differing indications between Capt and FO...and the crew usually made the wrong determination.
11-05-2018, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I would not be surprised if it is water in the lines (from tropical squalls while parked), a kink, a bad drain, or manufacturing debris in the lines (previously undiscovered because it was new), or a bad Air Data sensor.
Sadly, there are several examples in accident history of differing indications between Capt and FO...and the crew usually made the wrong determination.
Sadly, there are several examples in accident history of differing indications between Capt and FO...and the crew usually made the wrong determination.
11-06-2018, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I would not be surprised if it is water in the lines (from tropical squalls while parked), a kink, a bad drain, or manufacturing debris in the lines (previously undiscovered because it was new), or a bad Air Data sensor.
Sadly, there are several examples in accident history of differing indications between Capt and FO...and the crew usually made the wrong determination.
Sadly, there are several examples in accident history of differing indications between Capt and FO...and the crew usually made the wrong determination.
Except for all the times when it happened and they made the right decision that we never heard about.
11-06-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nutz
Except for all the times when it happened and they made the right decision that we never heard about.
Accidents will happen, despite our amazing safety record recently aviation will always involve risk. But there is no excuse for CRM causing injury or death, it is entirely within our control.
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