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Old 11-15-2018, 08:34 AM
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What medical condition would require one to resign so quickly? Are we sure this wasn’t substance induced? Honest questions.


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No.....we are not.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:10 AM
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No.....we are not.


Ok. I’ve just had a hard time following how a medical issue would spark such a quick resignation.


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Old 11-15-2018, 10:32 AM
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Ok. I’ve just had a hard time following how a medical issue would spark such a quick resignation.


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Substance abuse and addiction are a "medical" issue. Both are a disease.
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Substance abuse and addiction are a "medical" issue. Both are a disease.


You’re right. I wasn’t thinking from that aspect. I was envisioning more from the stand point of a stroke like others were speculating. I don’t know how it works for ATC, would EAP have been a possibility?


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Old 11-15-2018, 10:51 AM
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That was a rough listen.
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:01 AM
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The reports are different depending on where you read about it. Some say “administrative leave” others say “quit” others say “fired”. Obviously no one has their facts straight.
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:06 PM
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Ok. I’ve just had a hard time following how a medical issue would spark such a quick resignation.


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I think you got that I am agreeing with you that it wasn’t a medical issue (e.g. stroke out of no where).

I’m do not know and don’t have some of the contacts that I imagine our fellow APC’ers who are controllers have; but I saw something, that if accurate and not photoshopped’, tells me it wasn’t a health problem like most thought it was (and I was one of them).
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Old 11-15-2018, 03:31 PM
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Substance abuse and addiction are a "medical" issue. Both are a disease.
Addiction is considered a medical condition.

Abuse? Maybe, maybe not.
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Old 11-15-2018, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R View Post
Ok. I’ve just had a hard time following how a medical issue would spark such a quick resignation.
If it involved substance use...

A civil servant could typically drag it out for a while, but would have to participate in the investigation. Refusal to cooperate in the investigation could get you fired.

Cooperating with the investigation could generate evidence which could be used in criminal proceedings. Lying might set you up for perjury.

If they didn't get any hard evidence of a crime (ie BAC test), might be better for her to cut her losses and run.

They might have tried to have her tested, but she may have correctly concluded that it was better to get fired/resign for DOT refusal than give evidence that could land her in jail.
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If it involved substance use...



A civil servant could typically drag it out for a while, but would have to participate in the investigation. Refusal to cooperate in the investigation could get you fired.



Cooperating with the investigation could generate evidence which could be used in criminal proceedings. Lying might set you up for perjury.



If they didn't get any hard evidence of a crime (ie BAC test), might be better for her to cut her losses and run.



They might have tried to have her tested, but she may have correctly concluded that it was better to get fired/resign for DOT refusal than give evidence that could land her in jail.


All that makes sense. When I used the word “medical” I was not considering substance abuse as a disease and therefore medical. I was thinking more along the lines of a stroke or something similar.

Thank you for the info though.


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