ShyGuy

I don't agree with hanging a crew either, unless there was a wilful act of negligence with a "hey watch this" (which almost never happens). Most likely this crew had every intention of flying safely from OAK to BUR that day.


Every airline - including the one every criticizer here works for - has had an incident/accident in the past including excursions like these. The "this would never happen to me" crowd this early in the game is bravado at best.

PDRit

You know how WN could stop being the butt jokes about runway overruns?...stop doing it.

Seriously the constant fast taxiing, always “looking for a short cut” with ATC and other eyebrow raising acts would help keep WN out of the line of jokes.

ShyGuy

I recall several departures from paved surfaces at Delta, United, and American in the past several years.

RJSAviator76

Someone posted a few links to other airlines' recent runway excursions, so your "jokes" about Southwest overruns are factually incorrect.

As for fast taxiing, looking for shortcuts, by all means, please keep joking about it. I'll happily be the subject of your jokes, especially as I watch my profit sharing check hit my bank account.

Bluesideup1

Some seriously butt hurt people on here. Whack if you still think that is the way SW operates you just have your head up your ass and a chip on your shoulder. For the rest of the haters that seem to come out of the woodwork for no apparent reason. Get a life!

There were so many variables at the time of the event that it will take months to figure out what a crew had minutes to do. Anyone that says judgement or that would never happen to me better take a closer look as just about every accident that has happened was with crews that were outstanding right up until the accident.

The vitriol and hate coming from a pilot group towards another is just astounding. The fact that every other major airline has had runway excursions on nearly an annual basis yet no one has this kind of reaction when it is done by them. I also find it funny that all these pilots from carriers that have numerous fatal accidents from flying perfectly good airplanes into mountains to runway overruns killing dozens are casting stones.

Could there be improvement yes but that could be said about every airline. So stop living in the past as I hear other airlines asking for direct a lot more than SW as the rush mentality went out a long time ago.

I guess they say misery loves company and a select few that are on this board seem very miserable.

2StgTurbine

Well said.

Emmerson Bigs

"Minutes"??? Why? Were they on fire? Out of gas?

2StgTurbine

Who knows what else they were dealing with at the time. There may have been a red herring threat that got their attention and made them miss the latest update from Tower. Maybe they had an old ATIS and didn't notice the time stamp.

ZapBrannigan

Lots of schadenfreude here. Which is pretty sad.

I’m just going to wait and see what the investigation reveals.


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Sluggo_63

I don't know if you're helping your cause... the naysayers are going to say "they probably wouldn't have missed it if they hadn't been rushing," or "that would be the time to slow down."