OOfff

Considering that two other airlines had excursions this week, no, it isn’t “obvious.” Just post up the statistics. How hard is that?

WHACKMASTER

You really are making a fool of yourself.

Rolf

“Either you’re dense or a troll.”
You guys can always pick each other out. Uncanny.

OOfff

Again, you’re the one making claims about the frequency of pavement excursions without any sort of statistics to back it up

e6bpilot

I try to stay out of these baseless, ridiculous threads.
As an active member of our pilot group, I highly recommend you knock it off, Whack.
First, you are opening yourself up to disciplinary action which will waste my dues money. See the social media policy. Second, you continue to bite the hand that feeds you by making baseless and ridiculous statements on a public forum. Third, you are perpetuating the AirTran stereotype that so many of your awesome former Tran guys have worked so hard to dispel.
For the record, I have flown with exactly one “cowboy” in almost 5 years here. That’s probably out of around 400 captains. So that makes a total of .25 percent. My safety circle gets real tight in tough conditions, and I consider myself a fairly conservative pilot with a flair for common sense.
Stuff happens. Another poster has asked you to back up your claims with facts and your response is to throw out more baseless insults.

jcountry

Let’s just say we have different perspectives....

I encourage you to look at the gps groundspeed on a taxiway, pretty much anywhere.

Help me understand how 50 or 60 knots anywhere other than a high speed turnoff is legit. (Because I guarantee if your plane has SWA on it, you are seeing those speeds.)

I don’t do that, and I don’t fly with people who do, but I damned sure see SWA do it every day, everywhere.

Everyone sees it. All of us have seen the fun maneuvers down final to bleed off speed too. Just saw the steep turns up and down final trick the other day..... Please don’t try and tell us we aren’t seeing this stuff. We are all pilots who fly the same (or similar) planes, and we know what we are looking at.

You might be cool with it, and that’s OK..... Right until it doesn’t work out.

People excuse that culture because “we only fly the 737, so we are really used to it,” or whatever. But it’s catching up to y’all.

Some of us don’t get in a plane and play those games. SWA is one place I never applied to. I know enough to know I wouldn’t fit in there. I’m just not wired to be a risk taker, and I do understand how getting in a hurry is an unnecessary risk. It’s not good teamwork, it’s not playing ball, it’s dangerous and stupid.

There are a lot of good things about your company and culture, but that stuff should be stopped. It will stop, as soon as a really big event happens.

Peacock

Did you apply to Delta? United? Those guys apparently cowboy it up too. Otherwise, like whackmaster, post some evidence or shut up.

jcountry

I don’t care what you think

I shared my perspective, and I have my opinion. It’s worth precisely what you paid for it.

I applied where I did and was hired where I work. I’m happy here.

With all due respect, you don’t want people posting evidence. You want that culture fixed internally-without the media getting too interested in looking into what we see.

Anyhow, doesn’t make a difference to me. I don’t work there, and never had any desire to.

Peacock

Neat. You won’t post evidence because you don’t have it. Because it doesn’t exist. Thanks for letting us know you wouldn’t fit in a culture you know nothing about.

at6d

Passive aggressive demo complete!