SWA “rolled” off the runway in OMA
01-20-2019, 08:50 AM
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Originally Posted by jcountry
I don’t care what you think
I shared my perspective, and I have my opinion. It’s worth precisely what you paid for it.
I applied where I did and was hired where I work. I’m happy here.
With all due respect, you don’t want people posting evidence. You want that culture fixed internally-without the media getting too interested in looking into what we see.
Anyhow, doesn’t make a difference to me. I don’t work there, and never had any desire to.
I shared my perspective, and I have my opinion. It’s worth precisely what you paid for it.
I applied where I did and was hired where I work. I’m happy here.
With all due respect, you don’t want people posting evidence. You want that culture fixed internally-without the media getting too interested in looking into what we see.
Anyhow, doesn’t make a difference to me. I don’t work there, and never had any desire to.
01-20-2019, 08:57 AM
#52
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: CRJ
Posts: 138
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Are you a controller? How do you know swa is doing “crazy stuff” to make approaches work out?
01-20-2019, 09:20 AM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 309
Help me understand how 50 or 60 knots anywhere other than a high speed turnoff is legit. (Because I guarantee if your plane has SWA on it, you are seeing those speeds.)
50 or 60 is pure BS.
01-20-2019, 09:30 AM
#54
Banned
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 289
Really surprised Whack hasn’t been tracked down by management and terminated. VPNs aren’t 100%. He’s continually disseminated confidential company information while whining about an acquisition that provided him with a much more stable career.
This guy has the biggest chip on his shoulder I have ever seen and quite frankly the company would be more than justified to kick him to the street.
Your little VJ/AT flying club went away. So sad. Do you really think they would have just continued to on status quo or grown in this environment. Get over yourself, or move.
This guy has the biggest chip on his shoulder I have ever seen and quite frankly the company would be more than justified to kick him to the street.
Your little VJ/AT flying club went away. So sad. Do you really think they would have just continued to on status quo or grown in this environment. Get over yourself, or move.
Last edited by WhaleSurfing; 01-20-2019 at 09:46 AM.
01-20-2019, 09:32 AM
#55
Banned
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 289
Originally Posted by Selfmade92
Saw them doing S-Turns in a 737 on a 3 mile final the other day so they could lose altitude and wouldn't have to go around. Only Southwest.
01-20-2019, 09:44 AM
#56
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 1,681
Originally Posted by Peacock
Neat. You won’t post evidence because you don’t have it. Because it doesn’t exist. Thanks for letting us know you wouldn’t fit in a culture you know nothing about.
You should hope some investigative journalists don’t decide to see who’s right.
Evidence you request is not evidence you wish to see in public.
01-20-2019, 09:45 AM
#57
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 1,681
Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing
Why only at SWA? Just curious as to the criteria you would use to prohibit that at 3 miles?
If you do that here, you will get a call. If you keep doing it here, you will see consequences.
Simply put, our culture deals with people who pull that crap. It’s unacceptable, and it should be.
01-20-2019, 09:49 AM
#58
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing
Why only at SWA? Just curious as to the criteria you would use to prohibit that at 3 miles?
I think you could probably safely do S-turns down to 500' in VMC, as long as you nailed all the gates exactly at 500'. Assuming SOP permitted that. But both pilots would need to be spring loaded to respect the floor.
01-20-2019, 10:02 AM
#59
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 659
Originally Posted by jcountry
Yep.
You should hope some investigative journalists don’t decide to see who’s right.
Evidence you request is not evidence you wish to see in public.
You should hope some investigative journalists don’t decide to see who’s right.
Evidence you request is not evidence you wish to see in public.
01-20-2019, 11:02 AM
#60
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 588
Originally Posted by jcountry
Let’s just say we have different perspectives....
I encourage you to look at the gps groundspeed on a taxiway, pretty much anywhere.
Help me understand how 50 or 60 knots anywhere other than a high speed turnoff is legit. (Because I guarantee if your plane has SWA on it, you are seeing those speeds.)
I don’t do that, and I don’t fly with people who do, but I damned sure see SWA do it every day, everywhere.
Everyone sees it. All of us have seen the fun maneuvers down final to bleed off speed too. Just saw the steep turns up and down final trick the other day..... Please don’t try and tell us we aren’t seeing this stuff. We are all pilots who fly the same (or similar) planes, and we know what we are looking at.
You might be cool with it, and that’s OK..... Right until it doesn’t work out.
People excuse that culture because “we only fly the 737, so we are really used to it,” or whatever. But it’s catching up to y’all.
Some of us don’t get in a plane and play those games. SWA is one place I never applied to. I know enough to know I wouldn’t fit in there. I’m just not wired to be a risk taker, and I do understand how getting in a hurry is an unnecessary risk. It’s not good teamwork, it’s not playing ball, it’s dangerous and stupid.
There are a lot of good things about your company and culture, but that stuff should be stopped. It will stop, as soon as a really big event happens.
I encourage you to look at the gps groundspeed on a taxiway, pretty much anywhere.
Help me understand how 50 or 60 knots anywhere other than a high speed turnoff is legit. (Because I guarantee if your plane has SWA on it, you are seeing those speeds.)
I don’t do that, and I don’t fly with people who do, but I damned sure see SWA do it every day, everywhere.
Everyone sees it. All of us have seen the fun maneuvers down final to bleed off speed too. Just saw the steep turns up and down final trick the other day..... Please don’t try and tell us we aren’t seeing this stuff. We are all pilots who fly the same (or similar) planes, and we know what we are looking at.
You might be cool with it, and that’s OK..... Right until it doesn’t work out.
People excuse that culture because “we only fly the 737, so we are really used to it,” or whatever. But it’s catching up to y’all.
Some of us don’t get in a plane and play those games. SWA is one place I never applied to. I know enough to know I wouldn’t fit in there. I’m just not wired to be a risk taker, and I do understand how getting in a hurry is an unnecessary risk. It’s not good teamwork, it’s not playing ball, it’s dangerous and stupid.
There are a lot of good things about your company and culture, but that stuff should be stopped. It will stop, as soon as a really big event happens.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
