SWA “rolled” off the runway in OMA
#71
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
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I love Southwest. Love most of the culture. Love the service, and many complements to the employees and how they treat non-rev and jumpseaters.
When I was flying 1900’s, taking shortcuts, breaking off of Runway 32 and landing 3/4 of the way down 28L in PIT to avoid the taxiing, being put on the pararell taxiway so that we could taxi extremely fast we thought it was cool. We thought all the major pilots who rode on us and told us we were unsafe were full of crap. We were in the culture and could not see our problem. We never had an accident so we must know what we are doing, right? It was a huge culture shock when I went to my first large jet and had to become a professional pilot.
Perhaps a little of this exists at Southwest? The problem with this mentality is that in the right hands, 90 degree turns to final in El Paso at 100 feet is not incredibly dangerous. (Personally observed and at the time thought it was pretty cool). In the wrong hands, not so much.
To the posters who seem so offended, as long as that doesn’t represent you, then, ...sticks and stones... If it is you, then please stop, as I may have a loved one on your aircraft that day.
When I was flying 1900’s, taking shortcuts, breaking off of Runway 32 and landing 3/4 of the way down 28L in PIT to avoid the taxiing, being put on the pararell taxiway so that we could taxi extremely fast we thought it was cool. We thought all the major pilots who rode on us and told us we were unsafe were full of crap. We were in the culture and could not see our problem. We never had an accident so we must know what we are doing, right? It was a huge culture shock when I went to my first large jet and had to become a professional pilot.
Perhaps a little of this exists at Southwest? The problem with this mentality is that in the right hands, 90 degree turns to final in El Paso at 100 feet is not incredibly dangerous. (Personally observed and at the time thought it was pretty cool). In the wrong hands, not so much.
To the posters who seem so offended, as long as that doesn’t represent you, then, ...sticks and stones... If it is you, then please stop, as I may have a loved one on your aircraft that day.
It’ll never let my puppy or guitar ride on UAL though! That dang culture
#72
Why? I thought that was very funny and appropriate. In fact, we’re on day two of three and both the FO and I have been incorporating SWAMAS into our approach briefings for comedic effect this trip because quite frankly the rate at which we run off of pavement is getting to be comical.
I don't post much, however, this time I had to.
Apologies everyone.
#73
It doesn’t exist. That’s what everyone that works here besides one disgruntled ex-Air Tran pilot are saying. To imply that it does on a public forum gets people a little worked up. Did it? Yeah, probably (I don’t know, before my time but the stereotype comes from somewhere). Does it? No. Have I seen s-turns here? Yep, once in three years and that was miles out at several thousand feet after getting held up by atc. Not because someone is trying to get the airplane on deck 30 seconds earlier though. Bottom line is the rush rush culture of 15 minute turns does not exist anymore and especially not at the expense of safety. It’s insulting to the professional pilots at SWA when people perpetuate old stereotypes that say otherwise.
#76
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
Posts: 2,100
I feel your pain. I fly for Kalitta. Best kept secret in aviation. I resisted coming over here for years because of the rep. Got here in 2011 to find the cleanest and best maintained aircraft I have ever flown. A company that is very family oriented, and I made 418,000 last year. So much for reps. When I hear or read people mentioning K4 in a bad light I just smile and nod, laughing all the way to the bank on my paid ticket home from work.
#77
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,926
Always enlightening to see people take the low road and enter with personal attacks as you've attempted.
You're free to leave my wife out of it in future, but for the record, yes. She is a saint.
She also thinks it's funny.
You're free to leave my wife out of it in future, but for the record, yes. She is a saint.
She also thinks it's funny.
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