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Old 01-19-2019, 12:14 PM   #1  
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Default United Plane Slides off Runway at ORD

Officials: United Airlines plane slides off runway at O'Hare airport due to snow storm - Story | WFLD

My guess, probably while clearing the runway. It was pretty slick out there.


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2 more. SWA in BNA and OMA (I think).

Last year or so someone on here was questioning my manhood because I had the gall to blaspheme the mighty Guppy and its idiotic approach speeds. Suggested that it was a 'Man's airplane' or some such. Manly men go off the runway just as fast as non-manly men. Though faster it would appear, in an über Guppy.

This time of year, I'd keep those buckets open longer when justified. The hell with 80 knots.

Be careful and mind your ticket.
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2 more. SWA in BNA and OMA (I think).



Last year or so someone on here was questioning my manhood because I had the gall to blaspheme the mighty Guppy and its idiotic approach speeds. Suggested that it was a 'Man's airplane' or some such.



This time of year, I'd keep those buckets open longer when justified. The hell with 80 knots.



Be careful and mind your ticket.


Well said Mr Brown.
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Ends of the runway are usually slippery, more so than the first 2/3.. y'all slow down to almost 0 before the end and anticipate fair to poor braking action at the exit.
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Ends of the runway are usually slippery, more so than the first 2/3.. y'all slow down to almost 0 before the end and anticipate fair to poor braking action at the exit.

Bingo, if ATC doesn't like it...too bad.
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2 more. SWA in BNA and OMA (I think).

Last year or so someone on here was questioning my manhood because I had the gall to blaspheme the mighty Guppy and its idiotic approach speeds. Suggested that it was a 'Man's airplane' or some such. Manly men go off the runway just as fast as non-manly men. Though faster it would appear, in an über Guppy.

This time of year, I'd keep those buckets open longer when justified. The hell with 80 knots.

Be careful and mind your ticket.
And there lies the problem. The 737 doesn’t have a limit on reverse use. Our problems have mostly stemmed from pilots previously having an 80 knot limitation on the Airbus thinking they still do on the 737 and slamming the reversers down at 80 knots while engines are still spooled thus basically rear ending themselves on the short, contaminated runway. Folks, you can leave it in reverse as you exit the runway for all Boeing cares. Once stowed, it takes almost 10 seconds to get back into full reverse. At idle reverse, less than 3 seconds. When all you have left (unexpected nil braking at end of runway) is luck and thrust, I want the reversers at the ready.
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It's been about 15 years since I've been on it. I thought that was a big UA thing for FOD. It seems like I've done that on every plane I've flown here. I have no recollection of Boeing's limitations.
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It's been about 15 years since I've been on it. I thought that was a big UA thing for FOD. It seems like I've done that on every plane I've flown here. I have no recollection of Boeing's limitations.

I questioned this twenty something years ago and the instructor said, "Use it until you don't need it....a rock usually doesn't cause as much damage as going off the runway."
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Don't forget about the pilots who like to stow the spoilers before clearing the runway. Not saying it happened in this case, but I see it a LOT on the 757. When I ask why are they doing it, they say they wanted to go manual braking.
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Don't forget about the pilots who like to stow the spoilers before clearing the runway. Not saying it happened in this case, but I see it a LOT on the 757. When I ask why are they doing it, they say they wanted to go manual braking.
SMH....

I think moving the spoiler handle slightly is an approved way of disabling the autobrakes, stowing them completely is supposed to be done after clearing....some guys combine the two.
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