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Old 03-11-2019, 06:01 AM   #61  
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..I´m with JB on this one..We still got people flying out there, who should not be in the cockpit at all..For these ´´pilots´´, it doesn´t matter how good the safety systems are, or how good their training, they will always find a way to f--- up (excuse my language) something..Usually these same people have a long history of incidents / violations also, yet they still continue to get access to the cockpit..The big question in my mind is, what can be done to keep them out ??

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You can’t keep them out, so manufacturers have chosen the route of having the aircraft automatically recover, rather than additional pilot warning. That’s not working out very well.
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:55 AM   #62  
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You can’t keep them out, so manufacturers have chosen the route of having the aircraft automatically recover, rather than additional pilot warning. That’s not working out very well.
Which aircraft automatically recover? I need to try one of those.

Pilots have managed to stall airbus and aircraft with "laws," and pilots have managed to disregard shakers and pushers, to impact.

Hence, Colgan.
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I must be missing something. I've done a trillion stalls in transport aircraft as we had to do 2 or three on a test hop to check all the systems. And coming out of practically every maneuver in a Pitts is to come out in a stall. A Stall is air flow separation, get the nose down and get the flow going back over the wings. Power as necessary. A deep stall will cause severe buffeting as the flow separation from the wings will hit the low mounted horizontal stabilizer. Trying to read an AOA meter in a buffeting cockpit I next to impossible. Remember lift varies as air Velocity Squared. You start kicking rudders and getting one wing moving through the air while the other is stalled will put you on your back. If you are sliding backwards then you can think of using the rudder to get the nose down. But if you start backsliding in a transport aircraft, that will be a first and you'll probably not survive it.
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