Ethiopian 737 MAX 8 crash
#411
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I recall reading a study maybe 15 years ago that tried to find a correlation with accident rates in American civil aviation among a number of indicators. Only two stood out. The number one indicator was FAA written exam scores. The authors theorized this could be explained by weak understanding of material or a lax attitude given the non-rigorous nature of the exams. The second was total time on the very low end. Less than 1000 hours if I recall correctly. Unfortunately, I can't find the report. Maybe somebody on the board has access to it..
#412
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There are prep services for the HR portion (ECIC, Cage, etc), Technical Test (RST), Hogan (Hughes), and UPS sim Eval. Couldn’t your point apply to all aspects of the interview? Whether individuals prep, at least there is an opportunity to check actual flying skill with a sim eval. Maybe the company can make it tougher to prep with 10 different profiles randomly selected in the 737, 320, 757, 767, or whatever sim is available?
#413
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NYT: Airline reps @ Boeing sims find Lion Air Pilots had 40-seconds until aircraft was unrecoverable
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/b...ion-error.html
Lion Air @ 5,200 AGL... 40 seconds
Ethiopian @ 1,200 AGL...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/b...ion-error.html
Lion Air @ 5,200 AGL... 40 seconds
Ethiopian @ 1,200 AGL...
#414
I don't think a sim eval is doing to accomplish what you think it will. Do you really see significant value in a 15-30 minute snap-shot of someone flying an aircraft (sim) cold that they've potentially never operated before? Climbs, descents, turns, various combos, an ILS - whatever. Most everyone who has attained the requisite experience to get to an interview is probably going to pass this evaluation. The small minority who may be weeded out by a sim evaluation will just as likely have that happen during their new hire training.
#415
I don't think a sim eval is doing to accomplish what you think it will. Do you really see significant value in a 15-30 minute snap-shot of someone flying an aircraft (sim) cold that they've potentially never operated before? Climbs, descents, turns, various combos, an ILS - whatever. Most everyone who has attained the requisite experience to get to an interview is probably going to pass this evaluation. The small minority who may be weeded out by a sim evaluation will just as likely have that happen during their new hire training.
The only fair way to do a sim eval (if you care about fair) is to use a customizable generic sim (ie not type specific) and provide the candidates some numbers and EP&L's to learn in advance of the interview. Include some emergencies with memory items while hand-flying. If everybody has the stuff to learn in advance, and nobody has access to the sim type in advance that would provide a more even evaluation of base flying ability. You could even use a prop or jet mode depending on the applicant's background. Or just stick with jets. A PC-based sim would be fine, don't need motion.
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NYT: Airline reps @ Boeing sims find Lion Air Pilots had 40-seconds until aircraft was unrecoverable
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/b...ion-error.html
Lion Air @ 5,200 AGL... 40 seconds
Ethiopian @ 1,200 AGL...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/b...ion-error.html
Lion Air @ 5,200 AGL... 40 seconds
Ethiopian @ 1,200 AGL...
#417
The software fix would just limit it to a single operation, as well as require consensus from two functioning AoA sensors to trigger.
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