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Old 03-10-2019, 12:42 AM
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An Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 heading to the Kenyan capital Nairobi has crashed near Addis Ababa, the airline said on Sunday morning.

The plane, a Boeing 737-800MAX with flight number ET 302, lost contact soon after taking off at 08:38 am local time from Bole International Airport in the Ethiopian capital, the airline said in a statement.

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Not again... 157 lost.

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Every single one of those people was once a baby, learning to take their first steps, under the watchful eyes of a proud parent.

A lot of peoples’ stories got snuffed out unexpectedly this morning. Tragic.

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Another 737-8MAX. Hope it isn’t the same issue as before.
Boeing is gonna have a serious problem to wrangle.
Article states unstable and excessive vertical speeds.

Sad day indeed.
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FlightRadar says: "vertical speed was unstable after take off."
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Another 737-8MAX. Hope it isn’t the same issue as before.
Boeing is gonna have a serious problem to wrangle.
Article states unstable and excessive vertical speeds.

Sad day indeed.
Well, designing a system which relies on only one input, and then hiding its functionality was kind of a big problem.

Boeing has been messed up ever since it relocated the HQ
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Not that this is the reason but it’s being reported that the FO had 200 hours. IMO no one with 200 hours should be in a control seat of a transport jet.
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Well, designing a system which relies on only one input, and then hiding its functionality was kind of a big problem.

Boeing has been messed up ever since it relocated the HQ
Not defending Boeing’s lack of comm on whatever changed on the max in relation to previous models. But there is a proven, Boeing recommended solution to a runaway trim or stab issue that really hasn’t changed for any of the Boeing models currently flying. Turn off the stab cutout switches. If pilots fail to accomplish that step in their corrective process, then isn’t whether Boeing did a poor job communicating about a system change kind of a red herring?
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Not defending Boeing’s lack of comm on whatever changed on the max in relation to previous models. But there is a proven, Boeing recommended solution to a runaway trim or stab issue that really hasn’t changed for any of the Boeing models currently flying. Turn off the stab cutout switches. If pilots fail to accomplish that step in their corrective process, then isn’t whether Boeing did a poor job communicating about a system change kind of a red herring?
You don't think these guys new about the system at this point? To further your analogy Airbus didn't need to fix their pitot system; they just needed to better educate the pilots on handling the situation.
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Originally Posted by marcal View Post
Not that this is the reason but it’s being reported that the FO had 200 hours. IMO no one with 200 hours should be in a control seat of a transport jet.
How do you get into the right seat of a airliner with 200 hrs?
As a pax I would want to know if my F/O had a 200 hrs TT.
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